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Recording Engineer Student looking for advice.

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I am a recording engineering student and I'm working on my final two projects before graduation. I am looking for advice on mic selection and techniques. It would be nice to beable to experiment until I find something I like but I would rather get some expert advice first. The style is fast pop punk along the lines of New Found Glory and Green Day. I will be recording the band on either an SSL board or a Sony Oxford. We have some decent outboard gear to play with so even if I don't have specific piece of gear that you recommend I can probably substitute something.

Here is the mic list so any ideas you have let me know

AT's - 4033, 4047, 4050, 4060, 4041, 4071a

AKG's - D112, D660s, SE300B, C414, c535EB, C2000B, C3000B

Sennheiser - 421,E604

SM57

SE - 1A, 2, 3, 2200A, 3300A, 5600A, Gemini, R-1

We have multiple of each. Any help you can send I appreciate it and will remember when I'm out there working.

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Pro Audio Guest Mon, 10/16/2006 - 18:15
Yes...of course.

Yes they taught us techniques and placement I'm just looking for ideas aimed more towards the sound that I said. Some of the coolest thingss I've found are the little things that might not exactly be the norm. You will hear of everyone using a certain mic or different mics by different people.

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RemyRAD Tue, 10/17/2006 - 10:35
Sure, try this.

Drum set: bass drum 421, snare drum 421, toms 421, overheads 414's, hat, any of those little AT's.

Bass guitar: Countrymen FET or SansAmp DI and Beta 52 on the Cabinet.

Guitars on Marshall's: SM57 and E604.

Vocals: Beta/SM58, yup, that's right, screw the condensers.

Put your vocals through a 1176 and track with it.

Mix vigorously and bake for 8 hours. Mmmmmmm delicious!
Ms. Remy Ann David

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Pro Audio Guest Fri, 10/20/2006 - 13:54
Want killer drum sounds? In addition to rooms, overheads, and close miking, take a 414 and put it in the top corner of the room above the drummer pointed at the snare (THIS IS CRITICAL) Now squash the ever-living crap out of it to tape. Im talking beyond compression and into limiting, which I know is a bit of a fluid idea but the point here is a lot. (you want it to sound bad) Now after you have a rough mix slowly bring up the fader until you notice the sound start to change. Leave it alone for a few minutes and then mute that channel. You will think someone just let all of the air out of your drum mix.

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mark_van_j Sat, 10/21/2006 - 17:30
NY Compression? :D

SSL has the free VST plugin called the Listen Mic... or something. Sometimes it works with that same technique, sometimes it doesn't.

When recording punk, I tend to follow trends. While "hi-end" production was the name a couple of years ago, lately it's all about dirty and vintage. Get a tape machine and abuse it. Get some tubes and bake eggs on them. Get ripped speakers and mic them up. :twisted:

:D

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TVPostSound Sat, 10/21/2006 - 17:57
ezride251 wrote: Want killer drum sounds? In addition to rooms, overheads, and close miking, take a 414 and put it in the top corner of the room above the drummer pointed at the snare (THIS IS CRITICAL) Now squash the ever-living crap out of it to tape. Im talking beyond compression and into limiting, which I know is a bit of a fluid idea but the point here is a lot. (you want it to sound bad) Now after you have a rough mix slowly bring up the fader until you notice the sound start to change. Leave it alone for a few minutes and then mute that channel. You will think someone just let all of the air out of your drum mix.

Credit Lawrence Horn (Motown) for that trick.
I use something similar on VO for commercials!!!!

Mic the drums as stated abovem but dont forget a stereo room configuration.
Many of my rock recordings, we discarded all close mics, and went only with OHs, and rooms.

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Kev Sun, 10/22/2006 - 23:43
RemyRAD wrote: Vocals: Beta/SM58, yup, that's right, screw the condensers.
Put your vocals through a 1176 and track with it.

great advice Remy

when your young and don't know better
and you want to pump out some teen angst guitar stuff ... keep it simple and just go for it
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