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New drum mics

Hi gang,

I am about to splash out on a new Hendrix Bubinga drum kit and lots of other new toys for it. Mics for drums have gone by the by over the years all I really have left is a fusion f25 I think. I am considering a 4 mic set up. Bass drum Shure beta 52a, snare or Hi-hat a Shure SM-81-LC and finally overhead a pair of Rode NT5 matched mics. @pcrecord Marco and others, thoughts on this?. I'll be putting these through my Apollo Quad preamps. Room is treated and I have done drum mics before but usually 7 mics. Kit will be 6 piece, 22 Bass, 14 snare, 10 and 12 rack and 14 and 16 floors. 15inch hit-hat, 18 and 20 inch crash, 24 inch ride, 8 splash.

May add roto toms too, but, I'll see :)

Cheers,

Tony

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Tony Carpenter Wed, 03/24/2021 - 09:46

Waiting waiting waiting lol


Roland kit is packed away and I added that panel to preempt the wall of sound coming my way lol.

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Tony Carpenter Thu, 03/25/2021 - 11:11

Getting closer... but boxes were short by two today.. not a happy camper. The two with my cymbals in!!.

it was like a mechano set.

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Tony Carpenter Fri, 03/26/2021 - 09:21

The mothership has landed!!. Just waiting on rode mics to get into that. Freaky after no acoustic kit for 6 years.. but very nice.

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Tony Carpenter Fri, 03/26/2021 - 13:10

Davedog, post: 468315, member: 4495 wrote:
Love me some bubinga .....

It sounds amazing. Hendrix hit the ball out of the park. The Paiste big beat cymbals are nice too.

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Tony Carpenter Thu, 06/10/2021 - 01:32

Finally got around to doing a mic recording of the drums. Since last time I have tuned the drums and mics some. This now is the live mix people hear when I play on Jamulus each time. I have added a 16inch Istanbul ion crash and a Audix F15 mic on HiHat.

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paulears Thu, 06/10/2021 - 02:59

I'm reading the comments and am a little surprised by what you're doing. Spaced omnis on jazzier stuff with lots of delicate cymbal work can be nice IN A GOOD ROOM - but spaced cardioids are my usual technique because the volume difference between some crashes, and the usually lower ride make X/Y coverage of an entire kit very difficult unless they are high up = 90 degrees and a left and right cymbal mean they have to be hellishly high and then sound hollow and thin. Even with jazz, a crossed pair wouldn't be on my list. I'm also the kind of person who makes my own rules when things work for me - for example, for some jazz I might have one overhead only and concenrate on condensers for snare, a separate one for the hats and another couple split and panned a little to cover the toms. Kick I'll probably do with a 112 because they're clicky rather than thuddy. So my width comes from the toms, which do cymbals too. I've even recorded jazz sets with overhead and snare/hat - no kick at all - if it suits.

I don't do heavy drums because I don't like the genre and frankly am not very good at getting that kind of sound

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Tony Carpenter Thu, 06/10/2021 - 03:22

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Heya Paul,

That was recorded exactly how I play live every day. I use a XY pair of Rode NT55s overhead cardioid! of the snare, a D112mk2 in hole just of bass drum. SM57 on snare and the Audix F15 on hihat. The room is quiet relatively and certainly is small but reasonable height ceiling. I just play and record for myself mostly. We spent time getting the mic and preamps dialled in. And of course the drums all got tuned properly now. New skins I like better G2 Evans. I was trying to find the original sample I put up to compare but it’s disappeared on here.

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