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Message: [QUOTE="dementedchord, post: 224539, member: 49146"] couldn't disagree more.... bach is baroque... although he gave impetus to guys like mozart where classical clomes to fruition... the father of romanticism is beethoven.... the thicker/darker textures he used as well as the extensions of harmony that bach and mozart would never have dreamed of using gave rise to chopin and the like.... beethoven was transitional in this.... [/QUOTE]