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I have cubase running with my firestudio project, and the program is great. There is just one issue that bugs the CRAP out of me that I can't seem to figure out.

When recording (lets say guitar) the guitarist records a riff along to the drums. He messes up one part of it, but doesn't want to redo the whole recording of that riff, so I cut out the section that he wants to re-record and mute it. But he wants to hear the good part of the riff and then keep recording over that muted part as it comes up, and with cubase, it will mute everything in the track that you are recording over. When I used to use sonar7, this never had an issue, so there must be some kind of setting in cubase to turn off muting.

Maybe a more simple way of putting this is how can I stop the automatic muting of the lanes when recording?

I have been able to fix this temporarily; I could make a second track and record onto that - the only problem is that this is INCREDIBLY redundant and adds a bunch of uneccessary busy work by making you drag the newly recorded part back into the original track and line it up, not to mention it will rename all of your wav files in the directories to the other tracks name instead of the original tracks name.


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song4gabriel Tue, 01/06/2009 - 23:11

punch in and out. let your left marker to the spot you wanna record the new stuff and the right marker to the spot where you want to stop. in preferences you can set it so that the original track plays up to the punch point

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jg49 Wed, 01/07/2009 - 05:26

Song4gabriel is probably answering your question correctly in this, sounds like what you are asking for.
In your manual (always a good reference look up punch-in/punch out) but just to make it simple for you. Using the locators (small triangles at the top of the ruler at the top of the page) highlight the section you want to re-record in blue. Under Transport at the top of the page check the transport bar to be on. This brings up a small transport bar somewhere usually lower down on your screen that has the same controls to start/record/rewind etc that appear on the upper transport panel. In the small box directly to the left is the punch in and out box and numerical values will have appeared in the punch in and punch out boxes based on where the locators (the highlighted section ) are. These can be changed by moving the selectors. Then bring the cursor back to any point earlier than the highlighted section, this will be where playback starts. Enable the punch in and punch out buttons and enable record on the track you want to re-record. Hit play and the guitarist will hear the all the tracks including his own until the punch in point where recording will automatically begin and the enabled track will drop out allowing him to only hear (on that track) what he is recording during the punch in/out section. This allows him to play along with the recorded section so he can be in time when he comes to the section. There is no need to delete the section previously recorded. The new recording will appear on top, which you can do several times. If you then right click on the re-recorded section a list will come up. One of the commands will be TO FRONT. If you click on this you will have the choice of bringing back any of the seperately recorded versions.
If this done during the original session then it is very easy. The issue that I have had is when weeks later a guitarist wants to add a new line to something we recorded during an earlier session. Can we reproduce the exact tonal settings he was using during the original recording session? I have learned to take notes or digital photos of the guitar rig settings (gain, tone controls, pedal set ups, etc ) the mic placement and preamp gain settings. If the guitarist is using an effects processing pedal and has tweaked anything to get a different studio sound than what he usually uses make certain he saves it as a preset.
If he can not reproduce precisely his sound during the original session then it is usually better to re-record at least some definable section like the chorus or eight bars etc that the difference in tonality will make sense in.
Also remember that you can automate the mute buttons on any or all tracks so during playback the proram will mue or unmute any sections you want however, I think, that is not exactly what you were looking for.

xMannequiNx Wed, 01/07/2009 - 08:04

Ok that does answer my question, thx for the help

So there is no way to get lanes to stop auto-muting?

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hueseph Wed, 01/07/2009 - 10:00

xMannequiNx wrote: Ok that does answer my question, thx for the help

So there is no way to get lanes to stop auto-muting?

Turn off "read" for those channels.

xMannequiNx Wed, 01/07/2009 - 12:58

it was already, off. I tried messing with the read/write settings and that did nothing :(

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jg49 Wed, 01/07/2009 - 13:10

When you are using the punch in method do not click on the monitor button for the enabled track, that button mutes the track, Also do not hit record in the transport panel, hit play, when the punch in arrives the program enables record.
The read/write buttons control events that you have programmed, such as mute, fader controls, EQ all sorts of things can be automated.

xMannequiNx Wed, 01/07/2009 - 18:39

ok thx for the help. I think I am going to try and get sonar to work and use that, as I am much more accustomed to it.

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soapfloats Thu, 01/08/2009 - 23:28

Similar issue?

This is related to, and may actually be what the original poster was getting at:

While recording a track, when I go to change anything on another track (bypass an insert, mute, etc), Cubase (SX3 ver.) will disable recording on the original recording track, and enable it on the one I'm editing.

It's not a big deal, I just don't mess w/ stuff while recording anymore. If I have to, I stop, fix it, and re-record. That can be irritating at times though.

Any ideas?

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song4gabriel Thu, 01/08/2009 - 23:36

yeah- here is what i do

dupe the original track
disable original track
record the new part on the duped track.
re- enable original track.
drag new file to original

also- are you familiar with "stacked recording?" do you know how to use the "lanes" button?

if not, read up on it in the manual.