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Widening the Stereo Image...

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I recently did a rough mix of a song called "Propaganda".

It can be found at The Speed of Sound

I'm having difficulty getting the stereo field as large as I would like it. Is this an issue of mixing, or should I let the mastering house deal with it?

The singer will be coming in to lay down vocals tonight. I sang on this version, just as a reference for myself.

Let me know what you think! Let me know how I can improve it.



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mixfactory Tue, 02/26/2002 - 08:52
I'm having difficulty getting the stereo field as large as I would like
it. Is this an issue of mixing, or should I let the mastering house deal
with it?

Always try to get things to sound the way you want them to before the mastering stage. A small sound stage is usually a combination of production and mixing. Too many instruments in the same range, too many things on the outside(effects, stereo keyboards, stereo instruments,etc). Sometimes your mixdowm medium afffects it also(a Dat tape as compared to 1/2 inch). Mastering can improve this sometimes, I know that Bob Katz makes a box that opens up the stereo image to a certain extent. But don't rely on other people to fix things you can do your self. Its one of the first rules of mixing.

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joe lambert Tue, 02/26/2002 - 10:48
There are things that can be done to widen the stereo image in mastering. Our custom console has a vertical / lateral adjustment that allows me to effect just the sides or just the center. EQ can also do wonders. But you should work on it as much as you can while you are mixing. Placement of instruments in the stereo field is important, but I find that a lot of mixes have to much mid bass. This tends to muddy things up.

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Pro Audio Guest Tue, 02/26/2002 - 11:16
I'm tracking and mixing in Nuendo.
I don't have any keyboards, and the mix is not THAT dense.

However, when I listen to a CD, like "Make Yourself", by Incubus (which is a similar sound to this project), the audio seems to surround your head, yet the center is still intact.

I know I'm not using crane song products or sonic solutions... But I'd like to know if there is anything else I can do to the track, before mastering.

By the way, Joe... what would cost to have three songs mastered at Classic Sound?

The band is looking at some local places (in the Philadelphia area), but would like to find pricing for a nicer facility.

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Adrenaline Wed, 04/10/2002 - 05:47
Correct me if i'm wrong or add some input to make it right.

When i want to widen my sound (stereo) field, I start by sending the beat track to wavelab. From there i eq it as i would like it to sound, level it, boost it, then add what i've come to love most from wavelab, the Externalizer. Is the externalizer a good tool to use for widening that sound field? Often times my mixes sound flat and one dimensional and i find that the externalizer works but what else could i do. Is it a possiblity that i'm not tracking my instruments like i am supposed to.