RODE S1 and Sennheiser e865
I'm considering to purchase (vocal stage mic) supercardioid. It will be easy if I live in NY. B&H have big room of microphones when folks testing some of them before purchase. Unfortunately I can't go to NY because I live in Arkansas. And 99% of any purchase is online. I was thinking about Sennheiser e865 vs. RODE S1. I don't know how they sound but considering specifications look like RODE S1 should be better. Both having some similarity regarding specification. Sennheiser look very impressive, but we have to remember that we should evaluate mic on performance not on look alone. I was leaning more for RODE S1, but when I ask for advice at B&H, they recommendation was Sennheiser e865.
Hello, my name is John P:
Thank you for contacting the E-Mail Sales Department at B&H Photo Video and Pro Audio. I understand very well your predicament. I would suggest the Sennheiser. For several reasons. Although they are both condensers for live work. I prefer the sound of the Sennheiser. It is built a bit better than the RODE . Also I think is zsounds better. Especially the high end.
Please let us know if there is anything else we can assist you with.
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Now I'm wondering: how much I rely on recommendation from B&H:confused: I will appreciate some input from knowledgeable folks who know how this mic sound. Before I decide to buy one of them
They also have return policies if you are not happy with the product they have recommended.
Since you are out in the sticks of Arkansas, I think you should study a bit more on the characteristics of CONDENSER vocal mics in a live situation as opposed to pictures in catalogs and videos on the internet. I have friends who would die if you swapped out their onstage condensers, but they are rather pure singers. I took out an Audix VX10 and it didnt work as well for me as the owner. I'm a very good singer but live it just didnt do what I needed it to as far as its response to my style of singing.
If you have NEVER used a condenser live, you may be in for a shock and the shock might not be a good one considering the price you pay for the condenser part of it.
But maybe you're an old pro who already knows all of this. Like I said...super cardioid is a good thing for a pattern on stage, but that doesnt mean it HAS to be a condenser to achieve this.
Once again. Miktek PM9. Clean clear dynamic. Built in America.
The fact that the 865 is a super-cardioid will help for feedback reduction, but does not guaranty you won't have any. If a mouth is constantly in front of it.. fine ! but if you move, point the mic in many directions.. be careful.
So that's why sm58 is one of the best sells for live ! It does not sound better, but it's less dangerous.. ;)
I just read reviews on Audiofanzine and have very good reviews 9/10. What is very good for any mic with this spec and price range. I see no reason why I should not have one. People buying very expensive thousand of $ microphones without hesitation. And this one don't cost (arm or leg). $270.00 is reasonable price for this mic.
And it will be one more condenser, but this time not Rode.
a bunch of speculation is worth just that. well apointed thoughts, and opinions.
ya know what is a reasonably priced mic? the akg 214. the at 3035. man a 57 sounds clean.
People buying very expensive thousand of $ microphones without hesitation
Great gear is cheap, and expensive.
Also, keep in mind that retailers tend to recommend products that they move quickly at the best profit margins. I take little stock in what a sales person recommends, it is bogus 99% odf the time. Sennheiser products are good - as are Rode - but Sennheiser offers better margins to the larger retail outfits. This shows up in what they "push". Buyer beware.
A word of caution: Not all stores will take back microphones. Anything that might in normal use come into contact with someone's mouth can be a problem. Check the seller's Return Policy, or ask your salesman specifically what their policy is on mic returns.
i have a $229 rode paperweight from GC. sounded reasonable enough in the store to justify, even tho the salesmen told me it could'nt be returned. figures, i bought the only one in the rode family i don;t like to use. the nt2 (haven't tried 2a) and nt5's are nice to my ears.
for a more 'condenserish' sound live maybe a beta 58? i think they're hypercardiod, and they don't take well to shrill singers, or misguided eq, in my experience live. on te right setup/singer they will give you a more 'airy' type condenser-ish sound from the speakers. i've only used condensers on drums live, so i can't comment on differences of feedback rejection, sound quality.
Those of us here who have done a lot of live work know where this is going.
You reply: TheSennheiser condensers are no mic for an amateur - they have to be"worked" by someone who knows what they're doing.
WOW, what can I say?
Yes they are other issues, every beginner have some. That is part of learning and understanding. What in my age of 67 is not easy.
Thanks, I did not know that for some microphone you need to be a PRO. Other way you should buy Shure. How advanced I have to be to buy Neumann?
Even if: I make mistake, so what? Not be my first one and not a last one. The one who don’t make any mistake is the one who never do anything.I learn by mistakes and that is OK with me.
And by the way I was mention that is difficult tomake decision between e865 and s1.
I did not ask: what kind of microphone I should buy….. That wasnot my question.
Have good day.
This guy is a trip. I've been to Arkansas - Ft. Smith, to be specific. The brothers there talk real funny, not as funny as this dude. He probably fits right in.
To: moonbaby... Sir you may be a super expert, I'm only beginner but let me tell you something: there no such thing like microphones for PRO and microphones for Amateurs. You not need a mom's permission or special licence to buy any microphone. What you need is just a money, regardless of your audio expiriance.
Have a good day.
I was in East Brunswick NJ, when I was working for JB Hunt as OTR Driver Trainer in 1992 - 1998 then I was transfer to JB Hunt Terminal at Lowell Arkansas.
"Now I'm wondering: how much I rely on recomendation from B&H:confused:"
How do you know the person at B&H has EVER listened to either of the mics? How do you anyone here has? The right thing is to buy both and compare. Thats the best thing you have said.
For what its worth, microphones of this type and style NO MATTER WHICH MANUFACTURER demonstrate certain characteristics. And the posts reflect that.