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Vocal Bleed

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There is some vocal bleed that can be heard during the mandolin solo.

In this part of the song, there are bass, and guitar microphones active. The vocalist was quietly mouthing the words too keep place in the song. (Normally they don't do a solo, but wanted to put one on the recording.) The solo was recorded later.

You can hear the lyrics "setting sun" twice during the solo bleeding through the guitar microphone.

The style is folk/bluegrass, and they like a very natural sound. Any idea's how to bring this down any more?

In retrospect, I heard the words when we were recorded, but thought that when the vocal microphone was muted, and the solo was in, you wouldn't hear it. So I have learned, if you can hear it, do something about it. I wish we did another take of the break backing.

the sound clip: [[url=http://[/URL]="http://www.geckomus…"]muted words[/]="http://www.geckomus…"]muted words[/]

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Member Fri, 02/06/2009 - 22:27
thank god my ears aren't shot. I listened to that about 5 times before I heard what might be what your talking about. I prayed that the responses would be people saying its not a big deal or even better, that they couldn't hear it. And that's what I got.

Don't mean to make this post all about me...

Point is I guess...Its very inaudible (well, at least the mp3 of it through some Sony7506's into my laptop 1/8" jack.). Even still, I completely agree that little things like that are what give songs character. Its in time and sounds natural. I thought it was the string noise as well.

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jg49 Sat, 02/07/2009 - 03:55
It is ok that the thread has not been open for a while. It is better to revive a thread that interests you rather than start a new one just to ask a question that has been beaten to death elsewhere. It is refreshing to see a newcomer reading older posts.

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Member Sun, 02/08/2009 - 12:53
Thx Jg49. I'm actually not a newcomer though. I've read these forums since my college days in probably about '02 or '03. If I remember right, the sight was a little different back then though. And there was a side section with a ton of pics of different consoles, etc. You could find pics of almost anything audio. When was that? Anyway, I'm just a big snooper. I search a lot and read a lot but don't post much. Don't think I even signed up until a couple yrs ago. Anyway, thx again,

Ross

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BobRogers Thu, 09/04/2008 - 18:18
For heaven's sake leave it in!!!! Give your music some character. It's bluegrass not techno. The "ghost" words fit. Every bluegrass recording used to have stuff like this back when bluegrass was popular.

My favorite moment in recorded music is the point about 2:30 into "Little" Stevie Wonder's Fingertips Part 2 where Stevie is in a harmonica solo. It's live. The backup bands are switching. Stevie is modulating all over the place. And you can hear the bass player whispering "What key?, What key?."

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Member Fri, 09/05/2008 - 08:12
hackenslash,
Well put. I forget this too often.

Greener,
Are you saying the bass is muddy, and the high end is washed out? Yeah, mp3 compression is nasty, although the problem in question is audible. The final cut will not be MP3 with a 128kbps data rate.

I'm just trying to do the best with what I recorded because the band paid me to make a recording of them and capture their style. I know this style of folk bluegrass is not everyone's cup of tea.

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Member Fri, 09/05/2008 - 21:49
GeckoMusic wrote: There is some vocal bleed that can be heard during the mandolin solo.

You can hear the lyrics "setting sun" twice during the solo bleeding through the guitar microphone.

Do you have the singers MIC isolated to its own track? If you do and you wanted to get rid of it on another couldn't you just reverse the phase on that track and match the level of the bleed?

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