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5 mics, 5 preamps, 1 drum kit

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mix and match and let me know how you'd set it up!

mics:
2 AKG 451s
1 SM57
1 AKG D112
1 Neumann M149

preamps:
2 Neve 1272
1 Avalon M5
1 AMEK 9098
1 Focusrite red (3, I think; includes EQ)

drums:
standard right-handed rock kit with medium cymbals, ride and 3 toms

thanks!

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20 years 5 months

tubedude Tue, 11/27/2001 - 07:46
Ouch... well, since you have two AKG's and two Neve's, I would assume you would put those on overheads for closest matching, although I'd rather have those 1272's on kick and snare and have a pair of Focusrites or Ameks on the overheads. D112 in Kick, 57 on snare probably with the Amek, and the Neumann out in the room in a strategic spot.

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RecorderMan Tue, 11/27/2001 - 07:56
Originally posted by wallyjoe:
mix and match and let me know how you'd set it up!

mics:
2 AKG 451s
1 SM57
1 AKG D112
1 Neumann M149

preamps:
2 Neve 1272
1 Avalon M5
1 Amek 9098
1 Focusrite red (3, I think; includes EQ)

drums:
standard right-handed rock kit with medium cymbals, ride and 3 toms

thanks!


Pretty Simple.

1. OH: Check out my description of the "two drumstick" OH placement, and use the 451(w/-10db pads if available) into the 1272's for OH. this will get the toms great also.
2.KICK: D112 into the 9098 or the red; suck out 560 and maybe a little 200 (depending on placement)
3.SNARE: 57 into either the red or 9098;add some top
Ambient or Room: M149 into the M5.Close or far;depends on the a. Room b. kit. c.Song/Arrangement(and thus how and what on the kit is played-hard soft,etc)

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GT40sc Tue, 11/27/2001 - 15:15
One very important question: Is this a digital or analog recording? It would make a difference in matching mics and preamps for me.

For example, in a "digital" situation, I may not want to use the 451s on overheads. Depending on the song, the drummer, and the drums themselves, maybe I could get away with just the Neumann up there.

With an analog recording, on the other hand, I might take one of the 451s into a Neve and put it on the snare drum. Like Ang said, the song will tell you...

SC

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Henchman Wed, 11/28/2001 - 21:59
Well, I would use 1 451 over the drummer pointing straight down at the snare. Then, measure the distance from the mike to the snare, and place the other 451 at the same distance facing across the Floortom towards the snare. Then, use the D112 in front of the kick, and the m149 about 6 feet in front of the kit at about the hight of the top of the kick drum. You can move this one around to see where it sounds best.

The 57 you can use as a doorstop while loading in gear.

I used a similar type set-up for an album I am working on.

If youw ant to check out what it can sound like go to the following link and listen to the song Randene.

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On mixdown, I ran the 2 "overhead" mikes through the RNC, wich kicks ass.

Also to complete this recipe add the following to the mix:
1. Decent sounding room
2. Decent Drumkit, tuned to taste
and most important:
3. Good drummer.

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Jon Atack Fri, 11/30/2001 - 07:47
Hi Wallyjoe...I think there are some excellent ideas in the above posts.

I would probably start with something similar to Recorderman, but it really depends on the style, song, room, player, mood, time of day, etc. There are no straight-up answers.

Let us know what you end up doing and how it came out.

Jon
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