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Please forgive me-- this thread has little to do with "recording" and everything to do with musicianship. But I know there are some fantastic guitarists on this site and I thought you might be interested in exploring this song with me. :)

I'm labouring trying to learn this song on guitar:

I'm trucking along, but one part I can't figure out for the life of me is the run at 0:25. I know he is doing octaves from C to E chromatically, but I can't figure out why he is strumming like that. He seems to be doing down-up-down-down-up-down-down-up-down-down-up-down and every third stroke (always a down) is a rake. Why wouldn't he just do down-up-down-up-down-up-down-up? Is it possible that he is actually doing down-up 16th notes and then raking down-up 32nd notes in between and it's just so fast that I can't even tell when I slow it down 75%?

This song is driving me crazy and I love it! :p

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audiokid Thu, 07/02/2015 - 14:05

Fun style!

Curious, is it the sound you are struggling with too?

But, (except for the traditional palming and/or 1/4/1/8 note down down stuff) fwiw, I strum the same direction as I would if I was soloing. So, at any given moment in a song, I don't get tripped up by going against the natural swing of the rhythm guitars do so well. :D
The strum hand its the metronome.
This approach makes it easy to solo or chord "improvise" without loosing a beat.. I took this approach for practicing my chops which seemed to attribute to the ease picking up a song just by listening to it a few times.
Guitars seems to have a natural up or down motion that we all seem to fall into sooner or later.

The "down" is the kick and "up" is the open hat/ off beat, back beat. "chuck" (Boom/Chuck)

I'm curious to hear others on this. I never took a "formal" guitar lesson so I could be talking my own language.

DonnyThompson Thu, 07/02/2015 - 22:27

Well, I don't know if this technique is "formal", as I never took guitar lessons, either, but being primarily a rhythm player, I generally play this way as well ... but it depends on the song, too, I guess. Without having a guitar in my hands it's kind of hard to know exactly what I do and when, because so much of it is a second nature/habit thing... LOL

It's almost as if he's slipping into a bit of a bass guitar -slap/thump style thing occasionally as well, providing more of the "percussive" vibe..

Sound wise, it's a classic strat tone.

audiokid Mon, 07/06/2015 - 20:33

Chris Perra, post: 430425, member: 48232 wrote: Sounds like he's keeping the 16ths note pulse going just grouping the pattern in 3. Common for drummers to do R l R R l R etc.
The rights would be a shuffle pattern. The difference here is that he's using 16ths as the pulse so you get a 3 over 2 thing happening.

Cool tune very Oz Noyish

My thoughts as well.
The beauty of the guitar, the strum hand is like playing hi-hats.