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Advise on Mastering Vocals

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We are a not for profit spiritual organization and cannot offered to go for professional mastering. We record strictly male vocals in a semi-studio setup (sound proof & acoustic treated). We have only one speaker and we don't even add music. We are able to record fairly well.

NOW - please advise how to do the mastering, to the release quality. We do not sell the disks/audio material but do play it to groups of audience and want to give them the best experience. So, any detailed explanation as well as relevant links are greatly appreciated.
BTW - how does normalization improve audio quality; or does it create any problems.

We need to ensure that the audio does NOT change in anyway from the original recording, even if it sounds better. Thanks.

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Member Thu, 10/16/2008 - 06:33
Greener wrote: If you came into my house and said things I didn't agree with, I would argue with you politely, and possibly in my tone or infection you may misunderstand something I say as being a direct piece of harassment, like if I said flippantly that "you're an unproven unknown entity and you smell like cheese" which is something I might say... If you got uppity and took the argument to me even further. I'd yell even louder, then if you got close enough and looked like getting violent. I'd boot you outside.
This isn't my house, or even an actual house, so who cares.
Just chill out and try and come up with witty comebacks with little nuggets of information. Don't get all pissy.

Btw, I don't know anyone here from a bar of soap. And if I wanted to check your mastering chops I wouldn't click a myface link. So for now you remain unproven.

Why don't you shut the f*** up a$$hole? you are the reason why the real masterers run away or don't show up here no more. Sorry everybody but finally after lurkin for sometime I had to say something.

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Space Thu, 10/16/2008 - 10:12
You should most likely apologize for your aggressive tone and un-useful printing of expletives.

Many are Christian and prefer not to have this type of insult in their daily reads.

Many are children and do not need further permission by unknowns to insult.

I do not give you permission to go , on my behalf, and insult others in the name of whatever it is that you are doing this in the name of.

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Member Thu, 10/16/2008 - 11:09
honestyhurts wrote:
Why don't you shut the f*** up a$$hole? you are the reason why the real masterers run away or don't show up here no more. Sorry everybody but finally after lurkin for sometime I had to say something.


I'm glad all the "masterers" have run away, that just leaves the Masters and I.


Why don't I shut the up? Arsehole.

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Member Thu, 10/16/2008 - 11:17
Greener wrote: [quote=honestyhurts]
Why don't you shut the f*** up a$$hole? you are the reason why the real masterers run away or don't show up here no more. Sorry everybody but finally after lurkin for sometime I had to say something.


I'm glad all the "masterers" have run away, that just leaves the Masters and I.


Why don't I shut the fuck up? Arsehole.
don't like it ha? you are just pathetic and make me laughin out loud :lol:

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Member Thu, 10/16/2008 - 11:33
I'm pathetic and you in your pants laughing?

Does that mean you're apathetic?

Wouldn't that mean, if you're apathetic that I couldn't be pathetic in your eyes. Due to the fact that I'm not "having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity".

Unless you defecating yourself is "compassionate or contemptuous pity".

I'm getting confused here about how your honesty is supposed to hurt?

Let's get really honest. I am nothing, no one. I'm a fat, smelly unkempt person typing into my computer from afar. Making you soil yourself.

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Member Thu, 10/16/2008 - 12:17
Greener wrote:

Let's get really honest. I am nothing, no one. I'm a fat, smelly unkempt person typing into my computer from afar. Making you soil yourself.

i am growing sympathetic about the fact tha you are so pathetic and I will feel contempt for my discontent until you change the content of yer epileptic human existence.

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Member Thu, 10/16/2008 - 12:32
honestyhurts wrote:
i am growing sympathetic about the fact tha you are so pathetic and I will feel contempt for my discontent until you change the content of you epileptic human existence.

"I'm growing sympathetic about the fact that you're so pathetic and I'll feel contempt for my discontent until you change the content of your epileptic human existence."

Is that what you meant to type? Without errors?
Just trying to figure out if you're annoyed because I epileptics or you're annoyed at yourself for being unhappy about me being alive?

Just want clarification here. I mean we are typing at one another, I'm sure if we were in the same room, many other forms of communication could be used to get the point and feeling across.
So when you use text, you have to be sure the meaning of the words is that which the writer intended.

Or confusion reigns supreme.


Look up nihilist, then annihilation. Then come play.

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Member Wed, 10/01/2008 - 10:53
proactive wrote: We need to ensure that the audio does NOT change in anyway from the original recording, even if it sounds better. Thanks.
Do you mean you don't want to degrade the audio in any way? Mastering in it's nature changes the audio.

Would your audience be willing to make a donation for a CD? You can raise a fair amount of money that way to pay for professional work.

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Member Sun, 10/12/2008 - 10:25
proactive wrote: We have only one speaker and we don't even add music.

We need to ensure that the audio does NOT change in anyway from the original recording, even if it sounds better. Thanks.

One speaker? :shock: Bad news. Chances are that what you play (wherever is played) will always seem to you like something has changed. Furthermore, maybe you should plan to make recordings for stereo not mono applications. --- :wink:

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Member Sun, 10/12/2008 - 11:12
Umm... I think by "one speaker" the OP meant that there is only one person speaking.
And why would they need to plan to make stereo recordings? The stated application is for playback to a live audience - I would think this would be in mono anyway.

Personally, I second codemonkey's post. If you're done, you're done. But Remy's advice also sounds very good if you are looking for better quality up-front.

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RemyRAD Wed, 10/01/2008 - 14:12
You want your speaker/announcer to be approximately one fist distance from the microphone capsule. A foam or nylon stocking on a stick is highly recommended.

Output of the microphone preamp would be nicely enhance with a simple dynamic range compressor. DBX 166 comes to mind as a good sounding inexpensive compressor. Only a few DB are necessary when the speaker's energy begins to build. A low-cut filter may also be a good idea depending on his working distance from the microphone. But you have to listen to it to decide whether to engage it. If he sounds like he is in a mud bucket? Switch it on. Cannot really be judged properly through headphones.

There is no other mastering necessary. No other equalization will also be necessary. This is a very nice clean straightforward way of recording the human voice. A microphone such as a Shure SM58 to a Neumann U87 are great for this application. These are very smooth sounding for the human voice and are of the most popular vocal microphones ever used. Mastering is typically used to polish up musical productions. You as the engineer or to optimize this for most pleasant sounding and most highly intelligible with low ear fatigue. This means no hyper processing. A slight use of a downward expander sometimes referred to as a noise gate can also be beneficial, as it slightly turns down the microphone between words & at pauses. Overall providing a tighter sound. Something I frequently to come post compression i.e. after the compressor. DON'T GATE, but merely downward expand by 6 to 10 DB so that the microphone is actually always on. Never cut completely off. Threshold is critical for this setting to get it right. As you only wanted turning down when things get quiet. You don't want to turning down on low-level words. Threshold setting is critical for this function. Doesn't work worth a crap in software either. But that's for more advanced students.

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Ms. Remy Ann David
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