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Hi all...
Since this most recent W10 update ("Fall Creator's Update) my machine is really unstable with DAW production.
1. Is there a way I can roll back this latest update? OR
2. Is there a way I can just dump W10 ( which honestly I've never really cared for) and roll back to my previous W8.1 OS?
There just seems to be such a huge amount of Bloat with W10; features I'll never use, but that unfortunately still take up valuable resources...
I've done all the tweaking for audio that has been available, and it has helped, but it just seems as though W10 has never really efficiently supported audio production, at least not in my experience.
3. If I do roll back to 8, will I LOSE anything? Will I have to reconfigure drivers for things like interfaces, VSTs/VSTi's, software I've downloaded and installed since I upgraded?
OR
Is there anything I can do to get W10 to run optimally with audio production as the focus?
Honestly, it scares me to think about rolling back, and messing with an operating system...
Can anyone offer advice, or point me in the direction of a reliable and trustworthy tune up/ registry cleaning service? Because those tools scare me as well. Im always nervous with those programs, wondering if they are inserting malware...
Any help would be appreciated here, guys.
Thank you. ;)
-donny

Comments

audiokid Tue, 12/12/2017 - 12:26

Anyone using Windows 10 Enterprise?

I keep hoping for seamless, latency second box computers to incorporate (libraries, plugins VSTi ) that work flawlessly like the old hardware samplers of the 80’s.

The last few years I have invested in keyboards with USB interfacing and the akai Renaissance.

Akai this year has just introduced the next generation of MPC X http://www.akaipro.com/products/mpc-series/mpc-x which are stand alone but can be synced and edited either on the DAW or on the Akai. Brilliant! These new hardware based standalone samplers should pretty much eliminate the majority of VSTi need for me.

That will be my main 2018 investment.

George Birbilis Wed, 12/13/2017 - 17:35

Not sure if it's worth for an individual user to get Enterprise Edition, that should be more useful in scenarios where multiple machines are managed centrally in some business. A Professional edition should be fine. The main issue with Home edition is that Microsoft pushes updates automatically to it, however there are ways now to postpone a problematic update and also to block driver updates for specific devices if you find they cause issues.

pcrecord Thu, 12/14/2017 - 12:40

audiokid, post: 454448, member: 1 wrote: Cool, I didn’t know that! Do you think it’s worth the investment?

Honestly I don't know the difference $$ since I'm using a licence supplied by my day job.
Regarding how it behave, I think it's more stable than home versions mainly because the updates aren't the same.
As for now the last version of sonar runs fine with my RME FF800, nothing to complain.
I also do my video work on that same PC (first gen I7 btw) and I assume any speed issues come from the hardware and not the os.
The only time I make it crash is when I close the FF800 before shutting down the OS it would crash the next time I boot up., so I don't do it anymore (got a learn)

So I can't say it's the perfect world but reading some of the post here I feel I got the best part ;)

oynaz Fri, 12/15/2017 - 06:32

I manage Windows for a living. As George Birbilis writes, there is little point in paying for Windows Enterprise for individuals. The main benefit is improved management by using Group Policies and various enterprise level services, none of which makes much sense for an individual. There are also some additional features, but there are superior freeware alternatives to all of them anyway. The one exception might be Hyper-V, which has gotten rather nice. It is included in Pro, though. And WMware Player or VirtualBox are free anyway, IIRC.

pcrecord Fri, 12/15/2017 - 12:24

oynaz, post: 454492, member: 46189 wrote: There are also some additional features, but there are superior freeware alternatives to all of them anyway.

This is what most people search for ; more features but in our line of work (audio recording) having less features is what is recommended.
Less sh..t = better performances, no ?

But I agree if there isn't much differences between pro and enterprise, the cheapest is the right choice... ;)

oynaz Mon, 12/18/2017 - 04:10

pcrecord, post: 454496, member: 46460 wrote: This is what most people search for ; more features but in our line of work (audio recording) having less features is what is recommended.
Less sh..t = better performances, no ?

But I agree if there isn't much differences between pro and enterprise, the cheapest is the right choice... ;)

I think all the additional features have to be enabled.

I actually have difficulty imagining a good use case for Pro. It can join a domain, but all the management goodies do not work. It sort of sits between two chairs. Either you need some central management, in which case you need Enterprise. Or you don't, in which case Home is fine. Unless you really want Hyper-V, I suppose.

pcrecord Mon, 12/18/2017 - 06:57

oynaz, post: 454553, member: 46189 wrote: I actually have difficulty imagining a good use case for Pro It can join a domain, but all the management goodies do not work.

In my opinion it goes further than this. What led to unstable system is the amount of security, gadgets and updates the home versions get.
My enterprise version gets a third of updates my home premium gets.
So each time their is a risk that my audio production softwares are affected.
So far I didn't have any problem with my enterprise version and I'm guessing the pro version would be similar.

Back in 98, Xp and win7 times I was still using the win2000 version which was also ment for business. It was lighter and faster than home versions.
So as the years go by, I always went for the business versions.

pcrecord Mon, 01/08/2018 - 06:08

I hit the first Wall with Windows 10 Enterprise this weekend.
It has nothing to do with DAWs but with Adobe premiere. (for video work)
I've been trying to install the 2018 version just to keep up with new features and it kept failing. The 2017 was running fine.
After analysing the logs I discover that my win10 version wasn't supported.
I then tried to install premiere on windows 10 pro and it worked...
So I get to decide if I move everything to the pro version but I probably will even if it's time consuming... ;)