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looking for a decent distant kickdrum mic.

looking for a decent distant kickdrum mic.
Not a 3000$ monster.

merci beaucoup

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Kurt Foster Sat, 03/15/2003 - 12:12

My favorites AKG D12 or D112. Also very useable, Sennheiser 421, EV RE 20. I perfer dynamics even for distance applications. LD condensers are not directional enough IMO and I hate to risk them in high SPL / wind blast conditions. Kurt

sdevino Sat, 03/15/2003 - 14:36

I use all LD all the time. I know Kurt does not agree with me, but I get a killer sound using an LD in figure 8 inside the kick, or an RE20 in the hole with a TLM103 or KSM44 about 1 to 2 feet in front.

I solve the directionality problem by building a little house out of moving balnkets and foam.

Steve

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Davedog Sun, 03/16/2003 - 09:37

I can only assume that in wanting a distant kick drum mike you're lookin for the beef...might i suggest an ATM-25? this is what i use in conjunction with the close-mic at the head. this mike has a great range, is well damped and like cedar/kurt suggested a very tight pattern. This is not to be confused with the 'pro' series with the same number..these do not sound quite as distinct as the original.

lowdbrent Sun, 03/16/2003 - 14:53

Jazz kicks with no hole: Beyer M88
Audio Technica ATM25
AKG D112
EV RE20 (at the end of a second kick placed in front of the first)
Sennheiser 421
Sennheiser 441
New, pre EQ'd mics that you would only use on kick: Shure Beta52, EV868
Pillow Mic: Shure Beta 91

JeffreyMajeau Tue, 03/18/2003 - 16:21

The figure 8 in the kick that Steve uses sounds very interesting. Jumps RIGHT outta the mix at you. I asked if it was oriented at the shell or at the heads - he said it was pointed at the heads.

Doesn't really matter anyway, since you've got 2 omnis in there, you're going to get some shell resonance anyway. Depending on the mic, it could sound peaky or smooth. Steve's sounded smooth, I think it was a Shure KSM44.

If you're looking for a distant room mic, you could try a PZM mounted to a piece of lexan to increase the low-end. Placed low - below the cymbals about 8' away from the drums, you'll get a nice drum sound if the room sounds good. If not, tight mic.

The room mics are always fun to mult and send one channel to a ridiculous compressor and return that to it's own fader that you can work against the fader of the non or less squashed signal. Gets a nice blap.

Dan Roth
Otitis Media