Alternative to SM57

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by Mandachuva, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. Mandachuva

    Mandachuva Guest

    Are there any somewhat-similar mics to the SM57? As in: good for combos, some snares, percs, some interesting vocals, but with a different character to the SM57. I'm asking because I'd like to expand my mic locker, and would need additional mics to handle more jobs like my current (single) SM57 handles at this moment, but with some more tonal variety.

    Hope that made sense.

    Mihai Toma
  2. caligula

    caligula Guest

    audix makes and equivalent. shop retail (chain store) and haggle like hell. there's a lot more room for discount. I5 maybe? Look at heil too.
  3. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2005
    The Audix i5 works well as an alternative to the 57. I have a couple and they really work well on guitar amps, drums and percussion.I don't know if Audix is available to you in Romania, but you can find it on e-Bay.
    Mihai, didn't you mention once that you worked for an Audio-Technica dealer? They've replaced the VERY good ATM25 with what I believe is now called the ATM250, and there's the Pro25ax, as well. Any of those mics do well for cabs, drums/percussion, and brass, too. I love my ATM25s on percussion, kick, and horns.
    Finally, do you have a Sennheiser MD421 YET? You really should. They do well for all of what you listed, including vocals. Get busy, man!
  4. Boltino

    Boltino Guest

    +1 on the MD421. Excellent mic!

  5. droc8705

    droc8705 Active Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    if you wanna go the condenser route, i've read a few people on here mention that they were using the AT2020 for snare - some for top, and some for the bottom with a 57 on top. i've also read davedog say that he'd tried them out on toms and really liked them. i've used them on hihat, overheads, and for vocals and they get the job done pretty good for about $100. i haven't tried it on snare, toms, or cabs, but as soon as i get a chance to do some more recording, i'm gonna give it a shot.

  6. Mandachuva

    Mandachuva Guest

    Heh... would be interested in MD421, unfortunately it's outside of my price range right now. The ATM250 sound interesting (especially since I can get a discount on it) - it's marketed as a bass drum/percs/hi-volume sound source mic, but with a 15kHz maximum frequency range, it should have no trouble handling guitar cabs and such.

    Also the ATM250DE seems really interesting - two elements (condenser/neodym. dynamic). On paper, it sounds very versatile... Anyone tried this?
  7. Kent L T

    Kent L T Active Member

    Oct 28, 2003
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    You could always try a TAB-Funkenwerk transformer modification to one of your 57s. It makes a nice change to the sound of a 57.
    Transformer link
  8. peat

    peat Guest

    beyer M201

    love it on top snare
    great alternative to the 57
  9. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    Cocoa, FL
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    Can't go wrong with the 57 on top of the snare and a 441 under!

    Flip the phase and you're golden!

    57's are a workhorse, and they're cheap, relatively speaking - why not just by a few more?

    I mean, here's my opinion on what all studio's really need:

    A bunch of 57's.
    A bunch of 58's.
    A couple 421's.
    A couple of 441's.
    A pair of 414's.
    A few SM81's, for that SNL live on TV band sound :lol:
    Some TLM's.
    A few KM84's.
    A D112 or two.
    A few RE20's (or PL's please).
    A few EV 868's.
    Maybe some Audix D's and OM's.
    And some of those plastic clip on mics from Sennheiser - for extras on toms.

    And... never forget your friggin' DI boxes!!!

    (Sorry, the Heineken is kickin' in...)
  10. IIRs

    IIRs Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2005
    +1 for the best ever top snare mic IMO!

    I like to pair it with a Beyer M260 ribbon underneath.
  11. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

    Dec 31, 2003
    A couple mics I will use as 57 substitutes are ATM29HE and the AT 3000B. AT2020's are worth throwing in front of almost anything, great bang for the buck mic. Haven't tried them on toms because I've been using AT3035's as overheads with a 4 mic approach to a kit, may never spot mic toms again.
  12. nickeveslage

    nickeveslage Guest

    I've yet to get much hands on experience with an i5, but I've heard it described as an SM57 with more balls. Based off everything I've read about it, specs, and testimonials, it sounds like it'd be a great alternative.
  13. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    Gotta agree whole heartedly with the i5 Audix. It is the real deal. A little bit clearer. BUT I wouldnt ever use it for vocals.Somehow it just doesnt like the voice. A 57 anywhere anytime in any position on a stage. When I had PA's I owned 20 of em. With 5 58's I was good to go.

    Also....the Beyer 201 is as good a mic as I have ever heard. Pretty much on anything. I used to use it as the top snare mic and the Beyer 422 as the under mic. KILLER!! SM81's on all the toms, a pair of 441's as the spot mics and a pair of 87's over the kit and ....Bob's yer uncle.

    You should hear the 201 with a nice high-gain mic pre...GOLDEN. Low Low noise and great linear response.
  14. rockstardave

    rockstardave Active Member

    Mar 3, 2006
    in the right circumstances it can work great for vocals!

    the only time i've found it to work is when used on background vocal harmonies (ooohs and ahhhhs) and for a falsetto.

    the other 95% of the time it ruins vocals.

    my 2 cents
  15. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    Hey, if it works, it works. A 95% fail rate doesnt put it on the top rung of any ladder......but as I said, for MANY other things its great. My vocal reference was in comparison to a 57 (which sounds GREAT on vocals). For OOhs and AAhs, give me a big ole LDC in Omni sitting in the sweet spot in the room.
  16. hyphis

    hyphis Guest

    Audix i5. great mic
  17. cotenyc

    cotenyc Active Member

    Feb 9, 2005
    Audix i5 is a really amazing mic, lots of clarity and very rich sounding (some say too rich!)
  18. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    Cocoa, FL
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    Love them, can't live without them!


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