Analog recording

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by sign, Oct 11, 2001.

  1. sign

    sign Guest

    I wonder, how many of you pro engineers are still recording on tape?

    I'm only interested in the professional engineers because the majority of the home recording guys are using a DAW I guess :)

    And which board do you use?
  2. Mixerman

    Mixerman Active Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Many pro's still record on tape. Most pro's that I know use both digital and analog mediums for recording and mixing.

  3. miketholen

    miketholen Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    I STILL record on tape all the time.
    Studer J37
    Helios console.
  4. MadMoose

    MadMoose Active Member

    Apr 22, 2001
    I'm about to start using tape again. I started on an A800 and bought Adats when I opened my own place. I'm about to close a deal on a JH-24 and I bought three reels of SM900 today.
  5. CFS

    CFS Guest

    I record on tape anytime budget permits then my second budget consideration is if i can dump to PT for the mix and then mix from an analog console from 24-32 outs of PT.
  6. drumsound

    drumsound Active Member

    Feb 12, 2001
    Bloomington, IL
    I record and mix to analog tape whenever possible. It's the best upgrade we've ever done to the studio!
  7. I track basics to tape and then dump into Pro Tools right away. I prefer to mix on a console (there are plenty of Tridents and SSL's here) and I haul around my own 1/2" deck for mixdown.
  8. sign

    sign Guest

    Well, thanks a lot for responding and keep them coming!

    I thought I was a rare kind of engineer, most studio's in the Netherlands are digital.

    Maybe we can have a constuctive discussion about the topic, there has been so many analog/digital debates on several forums that became flame wars.

    I have tried them all, PT, Radar, MX2424, Nuendo, Soundscape a.o. but still prefer the sound of my tapemachines. (Otari, Telefunken, Studer, Tascam, Philips Pro)

    Last week I had to tranfer an old 1/2" 30ips master of a famous (American) guitarist to digital.

    I had to 'bake' the tapes for 8 ours but boy, what a great sound!!
  9. Rog

    Rog Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    I'm no 'pro' when I do music in my own time but I use analog. I use digital stuff at work and the sound quality is absolute total crap in comparison. It's harsh, unmusical, grating and other entirely subjective words ;)
  10. Bob Olhsson

    Bob Olhsson Distinguished Member

    Feb 13, 2001
    Nashville TN
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    When the word got out that we were moving to Nashville among my San Francisco clients, a number of different people asked me to make CDs of their older projects. On the whole those analog projects sounded far better than the same people's more recent digital projects. Even projects recorded on a DBXed Tascam 80-8 and mixed to a Panasonic 3500 DAT machine often sounded better.

    Granted I have an absolutely amazing sounding modified Revox 2 track but it was still a lot of food for thought.
  11. sign

    sign Guest

    Originally posted by Rog:
    I'm no 'pro' when I do music in my own time but I use analog. I use digital stuff at work and the sound quality is absolute total crap in comparison. It's harsh, unmusical, grating and other entirely subjective words :)

    This afternoon I was at a masterhouse and the guy had an interesting remark about the subject.

    He said: it's like a vegetarian sausage, don't try to make it taste like meat, make it taste good in another way.

    Anyway, thanks for the input. Keep them coming!
  12. sign

    sign Guest

    Bob, it's an honour to have you on the forums.

    My brother had an 80-8 in the eighties and I had a Tascam 38 by that time, good machines.

    I still have a Tascam MSR24S (dolby S) and a Fostex B16.

    Last weekend I did a job on location for a big brass band and I took the MSR because the two inch machine doesn't fit in the (Volvo) car.

    The sound of this Tascam MSR amazes me every time. I bought it new in 1992 and it never let me down, not for a split second, it needed a new head once, but it sounds almost as good as a two inch machine.

  13. Dave McNair

    Dave McNair Active Member

    Mar 6, 2001
    Tape Tape Tape
    I don't even want to get started.
  14. If you are DYING to go analog, I have an Otari MX 80 2" 24 track w/ autolocator for sale. It is in very good condition. I have a new head report you can see. Heads are 70% or better. It comes with an MRL and an XLR to Elco harness. I am even willing to deliver it if you live somewhere in Oregon or Washington. $7k Visa or MC accepted. Trades considered.

    Craig Alvin
  15. so far the last 8 project I've done were all on 2", Tascam ATR80.
    It is not the best on teh market, but it sound quite good and what I get is far superior to the digital setup I have (MAC G4 with 2408mkII and DP3.0).
    The cost of the DAW was the same as the 2".
    I use BASF911 calibrated at +6over250nW.

  16. I prefer 2"/24tracks, but I haven't been getting the clients capable of finishing the project entirely on tape, lately. Sadly, most of them count on editing capabilities of the DAW. So typically only drums, bass and sometimes guitars get to taste the tape.

    Then again, this is Croatia - the superpower in the music world.

    I forgot to mention the fact that I provide the 2" tape. There's no way I could make a client pay for it.

  17. showa

    showa Guest

    I'm in Japan.
    We have sony3348 any studio.
    But Lately many produser&engineer use Pro-Tools.
    They mix in Pro-Tools in SSL's ROOM!
    I think It's really stupid.
    I love real console and real outboad and someplug-ins
  18. magnastd

    magnastd Guest

    Hi all,

    As for the question.Analog SOUNDS analog.
    Sadly both of our 2" and 1/4" Otaris haven't been switched on for the past year or so.Budgets plus the ease of editing dictate the use of D.A.W.s,-
    Soundscape R,eds in our case.
    We're trying to get the best out of this, using all of our analog gadgets from the past or present (console,outboard,e.t.c).

  19. sign

    sign Guest

    It's great to see posts from all over the world, Greece, Japan, Croatia, what a great forum!

    George, IMHO it is a tragedy when you have a two inch Otari and have to work on Soundscape :D
  20. Marcelo

    Marcelo Guest

    Hi, I'm from Argentina. I am actually working/tracking on a Studer A 800 MK3, SSL 4000 G+. I agree with the " vegetarian food statement".
    Anyway, I am mixing a lot in PT, and it gets a lot harder to make it feel good. But I am enjoying a lot the editing/automation capabilities.By the way, I track almost exclusively at 15 ips, and also provide the tape. I gets harder to get the right levels on tape. I use the repro head a lot to check them.Greetings

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