Audix D2 VS MD421 on Toms?

Discussion in 'Drums' started by therecordingart, May 13, 2005.

  1. therecordingart

    therecordingart Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    I've been using Shure SM57's on toms, many different kits, many different players, and no matter what I can't get a good tom sound.

    I know my room and pres play a big part, but I recently stopped using the 57 on snare and now use the Senn E609 and get the sound I want. I'm thinking that it's more so the mic and less of the other factors.


    How does the Audix D2 compare to the almighty MD421? Obviously the difference in price is about 3 fold, and one is the industry standard, but a lot can be said for an underdog.

    The tom sound I love is pretty much your commercial rock/metal tom sound.

    So would you even put these two mics in the same ball park? How would you describe the sound of each on toms?
  2. dabhoys

    dabhoys Guest

    I own two D2's and I love them. They sound great on toms. I've used the 421's numerous times on toms and I hate them. They just don't sound nice to me and there big and ugly too. Not that is a major reason for not liking them..

    Even through a Neve VR Legend in college the 421's still sound $*^t imo. I'm a huge fan of the audix mics. I bought the DP-5 kit from advice here and I haven't regretted it!!!

    I'd recommend the D2's over the 421's any day :)
  3. JBsound

    JBsound Guest

    I also like the d2's on toms but I've been able to get good tom sounds with 421's. The other thing that you've got to consider is that the 421 in general is going to be a more versatile mic.
  4. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Feb 10, 2001
    I have the DP-5 mic kit as well. All the Audix mic's are very nice stuff. You will like the D2. No question about it.
    I don't have a 421, but the recordings that I have heard, that I knew a 421 was on the tom, had a real big sound. I liked what I heard, but like I said....I don't own one....
    yet :roll:
  5. dabhoys

    dabhoys Guest

    I know it may seem like the obvious thing but I'm learning very quickly that the worlds greatest mic won't make a not so well tuned drum good.
    I was working with a session the drummer the other day and he's been playing for 20 years + and man did he show me what a really nice sounding tom sounds like :p But he directed me towards this site

    I apologise if this has already been posted but I've gone here and I'm starting to learn how to try make a kit sound good. Its a valuable skill to have :)
  6. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    May 28, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
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    They are two very different mics. Both have their place.

    What some people don't know is that the Sennheisers are not side address. I have seen some rookies not point them (angle them, whatever) into the drum head, but merely had them peeking over like a large diaphragm mic.

    Most modern players have their cymbals sitting lower, so getting the 421's in is a problem. The Sennheiser Evolution series is a good alternative. If you have the money, get the Audix! You won't regret it.
  7. JBsound

    JBsound Guest

    That's funny...I've seen that several times myself...I saw it with a Shure SM7 also. I guess when you think about it, you can see why someone would see it that way. :D
  8. dabhoys

    dabhoys Guest

    I've seen that happen a few time too :) They're really big and awkward mics too...
  9. impro

    impro Guest

    personally I think that the sennheisers are great sounding mics.It depends on a lot of,mic,cables,preamp,converter,knowledge.
    Saying that sennhesers are ugly and sound like crap is a stuped statement.
  10. dabhoys

    dabhoys Guest

    The comment about the mics appearance was a joke and has absolutely nothing to do with how it sounds. Theres funnier looking mics out there :p

    I wasn't referring to all the sennheisers either. I know people who love the 421's to bits and swear by them. I'm just not a fan of how they sound thats all. I'd prefer a 57 on toms over the 421. But thats just me. Everyone has there preference I guess at the end of the day. To me they just don't sound nice. And I like i said we've run them through a Neve desk with a well tunes kit and the d2 or 57 sounds better to me. Thats my preference thats all...
  11. impro

    impro Guest

    You are right.THat is why I set personally.
    And personaly I thing 57s are crap.But that is just me. They sound dull to me.
  12. J-3

    J-3 Active Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    ATM 25 all the way. Sound great, nice and full, with warmth and openess. I was turned on to them here and love em. I tried the D2 and D4.....too closed and "thwak-y" sounding. ATM 25's stomp them IMHO. 57's are great mics for some things but not toms.
  13. I agree J-3, Go ATM 25's, they are magic on toms.
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