Backing tracks/live recording

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by scypior, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. scypior

    scypior Guest


    While we're making our rehearsals (we're not playing live yet), we often want to use some backing tracks in addition to those few instruments we play.
    This can be quite easily done by just having one track with click, and one track with backing track, and playing it via some player (click for drummer).

    However, we also like to record our rehearsals, to remember the ideas etc. That gave me an idea, to use some simple 4 track recorder. The idea is just to have backing track + click on channels 1/2 (click only for drummer, rest to the mains) and record what's being played on channels 3/4.
    I looked a bit on the market, and have found some cheap and nice recorders (TASCAM dp004, Boss Micro BR).

    The only thing I fear is (and it's almost certainly issue with dp004, at least what I've found while reading manual) that it might be impossible NOT to monitor what's being recorded, so the outputting signal would consist not only of backing tracks coming from playback, but also it would output what's being recorded producing feedback...

    Anyone here is familiar with those simple recorders and if some of them have the ability to perform such a trick (i.e. just turning off that bloody monitoring;) )?
  2. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Member

    Sep 26, 2005
    Well, that's what headphones/earphones were made for. And many of these units have the ability to do multi-track recording with overdub capabilities. But their functions are quite limited depending on how much money you got? Mo $ mean more capabilities. Zoom H 4n has some pretty cool features. Good built-in limiter, equalizer, reverb. You may have to get pretty imaginative to dealing with these wonderful handheld digital recorders. And while you could use this as a playback device, you would be better served by someone's generic sampler. You record your information in an assign those to keys so that you can play your samples. That's why sampling keyboards are so popular. You can buy sample libraries. You can create your own samples. You can assign different samples to different keys. So it can be used for sound effects for stupid morning rush-hour radio shows and the like. And it can also be MIDI controlled. Again, there is a hefty financial factor to consider. Money can buy you anything you want. But that's what imagination is all about. Amazing the things you can come up with from a Radio Shaft. For instance, you can get piezo electric buzzers. They are only three dollars. You tear them apart and you have inexpensive drum triggers, emergency acoustic guitar pickup, contact microphone. Telephone pickup coils with the suction cup for $.98 also make for interesting inductive oriented no connection necessary direct boxes. Just place near the back of a speaker voice coil. Move its orientation around for the desired equalization and voilà.

    You have to obviously have some piece of equipment that will provide for you the proper workflow scenario that you desire. Not everything for $25 as that. Sometimes what you want to do is nearly impossible. Sometimes you don't need just one mixer but three. In some situations you'll need 2 mixers and a third mixer to monitor the other 2 mixers for real-time monitoring or pass through. So you're getting into some highly mind provoking signal flow. It can make you crazy. Look at me. This is what happens after more than 40 years in the audio business. At least I look good still.

    I need to go to the beach and be a bitch
    Mx. Remy Ann David

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