Band recording: what more to buy?

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by Pace, Jun 14, 2005.

  1. Pace

    Pace Guest

    Hello all,

    I am in a pop/rock band of five and am thinking of buying new software and hardware to be able to record in a nice, efficient way.

    For information purposes, I have the following at my disposal right now (and let's forget about the real amp):
    - Etek AD1823 mixer (here is a spec link)
    - 3 microphones of different qualities (best being the Shure SM58 )
    - 2 guitars with amp combos
    - bass
    - keyboard
    - drumkit
    - Apple computers: an iMac G3, two G4 Powerbooks

    I'd like to record up to six instruments at the same time, but don't know what I need for that.

    I've taken a look around, and it would seem the M-Audio Delta 1010LT is a good yet cheap choice when it comes to connecting instruments/mixers to a computer, but looking at a picture, I have to admit I didn't recognise what I call the analog input, so I'd first of all like to be sure they are the normal instrumental cable inputs…
    My next question would be whether it's better to connect XLR-cabled dynamic microphones straight into the 1010LT or to pass them through the mixer, after seeing a post warning against the former (at least, that's how I understood it).
    Are there any other recording hardware devices of the like that are better, and does anyone know if that particular device can be fitted on an iMac G3?

    Please tell me if this isn't enough hardware to get good results.

    Afterwards, what cheap but capable (multi-track) recording software would you recommend for a Mac OS X.3 user? I've been told Cubase SE is a good program, but read some post on this board about only being able to record one track at a time. True or false?

    Thanks in advance for any help,

  2. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    Noooooo ... THAT'S just plain SILLY! 4_1_200.gif

    You can record more than 1 track at a time in Cubase ... someone just doesn't have their interface or VST inputs set up correctly.

    You already have a Mac ... so I say go for PTle ... an 002 interface would work. This will make you compatible world wide with Pro studios.

    I personally dislike DD and Apple ... I think they are in collusion to keep their customers returning with open wallets with their upgrade cycles ... but if you buy a PT / Mac system and just stay with it not upgrading every time they send out a prompt a Mac PT system can be efficient and well worth the price of admission.

    You're gonna need mics too ... Get a crap load of 57s (4 or 5) for snare, toms and guitar amps, 2- D112's or Audix D6's (for kick and bass amp) a direct box (Countryman 85) for the bass amp, a few SD condensers (SP C4's, AKG 451's) for overheads, hi hat and acoustic instruments and a LD condenser for vocals. A lot of these mics can be bought used at a substantial savings.
  3. Pace

    Pace Guest

    Yikes! A PTLe 002 costs a little too much for me :roll:

    Thanks for the response. I'll take a look at those mics then (however, I doubt I'll be buying all that load quite so soon :D ).

    I've seen another, not-so-expensive option, the Edirol FA-101, so I might go for that were I to buy a large external device.
    But then, what is better? The Edirol FA-101 or the M-Audio Delta 1010LT?
  4. jonnyc

    jonnyc Member

    Apr 21, 2005
    Check out pt m-powered. I think if you get into a lot of tracks on cubase using a mac you may be slowed a tad. I've heard many times that cubase runs smoother on pc's. I myself am a mac ptle 002r user and love it.
  5. Pace

    Pace Guest

    Due to a tight budget, I won't go for the 002 rack.
    Pro Tools LE, however, I might well consider.
    But is it compatible with interfaces such as the Delta 1010LT or do you have to buy Digidesign products?
  6. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    That's why I suggested an 002 ... you have to use Digidesign hardware to run PT le or HD. The good news is the software comes with the 002.

    Look for a used one on Ebay ... if you don't find one right away keep looking every day. One will pop up soonere or later.
  7. jonnyc

    jonnyc Member

    Apr 21, 2005
    I'll say it again, check out pro tools m-powered. software is 400 interfaces vary in price. M powered is compatable with certain m-audio interfaces. And do check out ebay, by the way what kind of budget are you working with.
  8. Pace

    Pace Guest

    Budget: At a first glance, I'd say 550 € (678 dollars) maximum for interface + software (yeah, I know, it's a very tight budget, but I don't want to use up too much). Of course, if I find that I want to dish out twice the amount, then I'll see :D
    I'll have a look at eBay.
    Thanks for your help in any case.
  9. Pace

    Pace Guest

    Okay, thank you all. I found a brand new Digi 002 for £500 ;)
    I'll be testing it as soon as I get it.

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