Beat Detective for Sonar

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by bgavin, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. bgavin

    bgavin Guest

    I'm currently in Los Angeles where my daughter's band is recording in a Pro Tools environment.

    I'm seriously impressed with the Beat Detective function.

    Question: is there something similar for Sonar?
     
  2. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

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    bgavin, I have Sonar 3.0 and I'm aware of a function that will time correct parts to fit to a drum loop. Is that what Beat Detective does?
     
  3. bgavin

    bgavin Guest

    Beat Detective examines the sharp transients, such as kick drum. It then does some fancy fade/positioning and aligns it directly on the click beat.

    It is a timing correction tool for sloppy drummers. My daughter's drummer is awfully close in her timing, but BD put her kick dead-on with the click. It is remarkable how much this tightens up the final sound.

    Kinda like AutoTune, for kick drums.
     
  4. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

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    Crud. I've been doing that manually all this time. I still leave some breathing space so it doesn't sound totally mechanical, especially on double hits, but that sounds a lot more convenient. Maybe too much so. ;)
     
  5. heinz

    heinz Guest

    drumagog is supposed to offer similar functionality to beat detective, and it is a DX plugin.
     
  6. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder if you can select an offset to produce that behind the beat feel for swamp music?
     
  7. RecorderMan

    RecorderMan Distinguished Member

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    yes
     
  8. jonyoung

    jonyoung Well-Known Member

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    Cool! Thanks RM.
     
  9. Bobby Yarrow

    Bobby Yarrow Guest

    Drumagog is brilliant plugin for triggering, but doesn't help with timing. Regrettably, I think beat detective's got that market to itself.

    I do it manually. Sounds better, I tell myself . . .
     
  10. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

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    I suppose you COULD bounce out to midi from drumagog, quantize, then resample. That doesn't really count though, since you aren't going to be using the original tracks. And it doesn't do anything for bleed through overheads, etc.
     
  11. Recording Engineer

    Recording Engineer Active Member

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    I've never looked when client occasionally brings it into my studio on a laptop... Does Pro Tools LE have Beat Detective?
     
  12. bgavin

    bgavin Guest

    Dunno. We were in a high-end PT studio running the latest version of the full blown package.

    When I'm only the gear lumper, I keep a respectful distance from the engineer during sessions. This includes keeping quiet.
     

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