Big monitors

Discussion in 'Monitoring' started by Random_Assembly, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. Random_Assembly

    Random_Assembly Active Member

    St. Louis, MO.
    I have a fairly well put together studio with a couple of pairs of small monitors, but occasionally I like to crank up a song. (to impress myself as well as clients and friends) What do you use or suggest for large monitors. I haven't put much thought into a budget, mainly because I'm not sure of pricing on bigger monitors.

    All replies are appreciated.
    Thanks, Tony
  2. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    How big are we talking here? This can get quiet expensive. A pair of Genelec 1032's would be about $5000us and those are only 10" woofers. Plenty loud enough to damage some ears though.

    Oh. You didn't mention powered or passive.

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](edit: ok, let's try that again.) JBL LSR6332L
  3. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    If you're like some of us the Studio Gallery on the Genelec site might get you unduly excited and give you some ideas.
  4. BassFuzz

    BassFuzz Active Member

    Maybe search for some of the bigger used Westlakes or Quested or Dynaudio's
  5. Random_Assembly

    Random_Assembly Active Member

    St. Louis, MO.
    Thanks for the input guys.
    Hueseph, The Genelecs are out of my price range, but one can dream.
    Hawk, That gallery is amazing. I am getting ramped up to redo my control room, the bad side, the more ideas I get, the more my wife realizes its going to cost.
    BassFuzz, I'll look into those.
    Thanks again, Tony
  6. BassFuzz

    BassFuzz Active Member

    Tony, did u ever find something that worked for u?
  7. Random_Assembly

    Random_Assembly Active Member

    St. Louis, MO.
    No, I haven't found anything yet, but thanks for asking. I'm still in the early re-design phase, so I have time to figure it out. I even thought about hand picking the componants and building my own. I do all of my mixing on nearfields, so the big monitors are more of a "hey, listen to this" sort of deal. I'm not sure what I'm going to do, but if I build a pair(and if they sound halfway decent), I'll post the parts and pieces and build specs.
  8. BassFuzz

    BassFuzz Active Member

    Cool Also was thinking you may want to check out audiogon,com as well. Mainly used hifi gear but see used big monitors appear on there as well (as well as thier parts like altec/jbl etc. stuff)
  9. natural

    natural Active Member

    Here's at least one alternate solution. Add a subwoofer to your near fields.
    I use a pair of KRK 7000's (7" woofer) powered with a 150 watt amp for normal mixing. For that loud gratification or to check the sub bass content, I have a powered sub on a footswitch. One tap and I can crank up the volume even just a little and get a good amount of bass in the room, another tap, and I'm back to just the KRK's.
    Now, a subwoofer can be problematic, (but I guess bigger monitors have their own set of problems too) but properly matched to your nearfields, a sub can help add that larger dimension you're looking for.
  10. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Pacific NW
    If all you want them for is playback as mains in your room then theres no reason in the world not to find a good set of JBL 4311 or 4412's. 4425's if you want will work also. A great amp will be needed but you wont need a bunch of watts as these are real efficient and they will blow yer hair back at 100watts! They kind of slew the sound so it sounds good in larger spaces and will help you identify things that are phasing that you might not catch of nearfields. I mixed on 4311's for a lot of years and then Urie's. Miss the JBL's. Build em into a soffitt....they're perfect for that!!! And they WILL sound huge to any client. A great conditioned pair, probably a recent foam replacement and a recone will set you back less than a grand for a pair. Classic sounds have never gone outta style.
  11. Random_Assembly

    Random_Assembly Active Member

    St. Louis, MO.
    Thanks Dave, that was my first thought when I started looking. You would be suprised at how often JBLs pop up on Craigs List around here.
  12. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Member

    Dave you certainly beat me to the punch. I was going to suggest the same thing. You do have to watch out that the urethane woofer suspension isn't rotted on those 4400 series. Don't have to worry about that with 4310/11/12's. Try to find a Crown DC 300A to plug into those JBL's. I have five pairs of 4310/4311/4312's, in the control room, in the den, and my partners living room, in the dining room, basement control room & a couple of Crowns, Pioneer, Hafler, Nikko, lovem'. And maybe one day I'll finally purchase a Bryston? Most of which I purchased used. Only one pair I purchased new and they are workhorses, pretty hard to blow out or damage. They are extremely efficient compared to other monitors and can really be powered quite nicely from a 75 W per channel amplifier.

    JBL/KRK lover
    Mx. Remy Ann David
  13. Random_Assembly

    Random_Assembly Active Member

    St. Louis, MO.
    Remy, thanks for your input. When I finaly have time to sit down and relax for a minute or two, I look forward to reading your replies on the forum.
    Thanks again, Tony
  14. ogikubocity

    ogikubocity Active Member

    All the monitors mentioned above are great...but their just too expensive for home recording!! I've been recording mixes and tracks for a year now and decided to upgrade my BX8a to Yamaha HS80m. Well satisfied with the HS80m and planning on keeping them for a while. In terms of loudness, they might fall a bit short of 10" woofers( has 8"), but it delivers one of the cleanest & honest sounds for a $300 studio monitor. Worth checking out forsure.
    I read the reviews on hereYamaha Referencvie Studio Monitor Review. Don't Buy HS80m Until You Read This. | Affordable Studio Monitor Archieve
  15. mrhotmark

    mrhotmark Active Member

    Try finding a used pair of Alesis Monitor Twos. You can get them really cheap nowadays.
  16. lambchop

    lambchop Active Member

    Hey, I'll give you another option. If, as you say, the purpose of these monitors is to impress the clients; how about considering building your own speakers. A search of the web and you should be able to find lots of books/material/sites on this subject. You could build yourself a copy of the old Altec Big Reds, or something else in that category.
  17. BusterMudd

    BusterMudd Active Member

    New York City
    Without knowing how large the OP's control room is it seems a bit misguided to be suggesting "big monitors" based purely on their ability to "play loud".

    What he needs are monitors that will play loud enough.
  18. If your interested I have large JBL's (DMS-1's) & Westlakes (TM-2, TM-3's) available. It is a sin to have them in the spare bedroom not connected.
  19. Random_Assembly

    Random_Assembly Active Member

    St. Louis, MO.
    Thank you everybody for your posts. I am going to build my own. Fortunately, this isn't my first rodeo with cabinet design. After they are built I'll post pics and specs.

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