de-essing: treatment and prevention

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by kent powell, Jan 8, 2002.

  1. kent powell

    kent powell Active Member

    Mar 30, 2001
    Yes, I posted this on the home-rec bbs as well, so apologies if I'm whipping you. Otherwise, I'm looking for advice on stopping the deadly ess-es before they start when tracking vocals. Got a very ess-y lyric, and I hate what De-esser's do to a track.

    What I've done so far is angle my MXL V67 downward from above pointed at the nose and gone through a Symetrix 202 and an RNC (very lightly) to my hard drive. Results not bad, but I'd rather recut a leth ethy vocal than meth it up with a de-ethher.

    So, appreciate any tips on technique. And, not wanting to turn this into a gear thread, but if you'd suggest any different mic, etc for this, I'm all ears. Keep in mind I'm no pro and have only cheep home gear. TIA
    -Snappy from Big D
  2. Mike Simmons

    Mike Simmons Active Member

    Nov 5, 2001
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    I've read that you can rubber band a pencil on the front of a pop screen to minimize SSS's... like this: -0- adjust it 'til the pencil breaks the SSS airflow... I've never tried it.

    Trade out mics and see if the singer has the same problem on other mics. Keep playing with mic positions OR embrace the whistle! It could be that singers trademark (lol).

    In Pro Tools (post) I use a waves de-esser or a side band compressor (lightly!), or tweek the SSS's with decreases in the volume graph.

    Good luck!
  3. Ang1970

    Ang1970 Well-Known Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    If that ith the mic pothithion that workth betht, keep uthing it. Then try backing up a bit and thee if that improveth the thituathion. Altho, try and get your handth on a different pre, to thee if the Thymetrikth ith making matterth worthe.

    Jutht my two thentth...
    Hope that helpth! :D

    Ang1970 ith:
    Angelo Quaglia,
    AQ Productionth
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  4. kent powell

    kent powell Active Member

    Mar 30, 2001
    Thanks! You guys rock! Anybody else got a secret weapon or method?
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