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Demoing Sonarworks Reference 4

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Chris Perra, Aug 11, 2018.

  1. miyaru

    miyaru Active Member

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    I told them, they can keep it, and that I want my money refund. Will find another supplier.........
     
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  2. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Distinguished Member

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    Good luck. Maybe its a sign to look into how REW compares directly with Sonarworks. Ive only used it for testing, but i am not sure if Rew has some eq for room tuning.
     
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  3. miyaru

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    The problem is I have no measering mic right now. I ordered the Sonarworks packege with a mic in it. I will see if I can download it and use it with LDC in omni mode, but I guess that is colouring to much.........
     
  4. Chris Perra

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    I bought the mic first from a local music chain online as I didn't have a measuring mic anyway. Then I ran the 24 day demo to see if I liked it. Then bought the software. I found it to be around the same price as buying both together.. The software that you get with the package is only the serial number anyway.

    I think any retailer brick and mortar store that carries Sonarworks should have demo mics so that people can rent them to check out how it works without investing a fair amount.
     
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  5. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Distinguished Member

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    I know with REW, there is a calibration process so any mic and soundcard/interface can be used.
     
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  6. miyaru

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    I will try it as soon as I have some time. For now the supplier agreed with a refund of my money. So now I can shop some further........
     
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  7. miyaru

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    This afternoon my money was refunded. Tonight I ordered a new packege from a different supplier. Tommorow I will get it, and this weekend is going to be for testing etc. I have to do it twice, as I have two pair of speakers in my music room. The main pair are Presonus Eris 8's, the second pair are cheapo PC speakers to compare the mix in the worst case scenario. This speakes don't have any lows, and are middy and shrill. It is an art to get a mix right on them! I will calibrate them too, to make my life a bit easier.

    I have thought though about Ollo Cans, but then again it is easy to take everywhere to mix on them, but I prefer mixing on monitors. My solution will span two pair of speakers and my cans - Beyer Dynamic DT 770 pro's.

    I'm excited about it, and can't wait to set the system up, and make it ready for use!
     
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  8. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Distinguished Member

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    Awsome man looking forward to hearing about how it goes!
     
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  9. miyaru

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    Setup was easy and flawless, as expected. Took about an half hour to install and measure. Man was it needed in my space! Things sound clearer now, more focussed and the stereo image is wider....... broader. My cans are supported too, so that is all ok now too. I listened to some of my mixes, and I decided that for a great part of my songs, I can start over with mixing. I take what I find my best songs and do these first. I also noticed it is not fatiqueging anymore to listen for a few hours. It used to be OK, but now it is much better.

    What can I say about it....... sound is tighter, bassresponse is tighter on both the cans - Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro and my Presonus Eris 8 monitors. The last are a steal for the price, tested a lot of monitors but in the cheaper segment these where found the best by me. But now they sound better then ever.

    Of course will my system and room not sound like a pro mixing room with Adam's, Dynaudio's or Genelec's, but I'm content with it as it is now with the combi of my PC, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 interface , Presonus Eris 8 monitors and Sonarworks Reference 4.
     
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  10. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Distinguished Member

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    Great to hear your happy with your first impressions! Ive heard some good stuff about the eris monitors. The dt770s are on my personal hitlist.

    Im curious to know how your mixes translate to the rest of the world. Im not exactly sure how Sonarworks operates under the hood. I know when it comes to eq on monitoring, you can end up making the nulls in the room worse, and narrowing the the sweet spot. It would be great to hear from you when re mix some stuff.

    Cheers!
     
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  11. miyaru

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    Haven't done any mixing yet, but listening to reference songs to get used to the "new" sound. Sometimes it sounds so different of what it used to be before Sonarworks......It is better, but takes some time to getting used to it. It is told by many users that it takes some time to get comfortable with it.

    I'll keep everyone informed!

    Have a nice weekend!
     
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  12. pcrecord

    pcrecord Quality recording seeker ! Distinguished Member

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    Normal that it takes time, it's like having a new set of monitors ! ;)
     
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  13. Chris Perra

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    You'll find it sort of sucks the life out of fun monitors like Adams or speakers that have alot of spread and life to them.
    You'll have to work harder to get a good sound, but when you do it translates. Also you can really hear a good mic from a bad one comparing reference material.
     
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  14. miyaru

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    Yep, sounds flat as a desk right now....... But that is the good side of it - you are indeed forced to work harder on the mix to get it vivid on the monitors.

    The bad side is it took away a fair amount of low end, where I was used to. But it was to much, I know, but it was fun though LOL........
     
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    I'm also used to mix with a bit too much lowend. It tricks my ears and force me to mix more accuratly.
    In you case, you'll have te re-learn or can you tweak your sound too?
     
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  16. miyaru

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    Can mix it from 0% to 100% wet/original. So for some that might be a solution. I prefer to relearn.

    Yesterdaynight I discovered that one of the rolloff dipswitches at the back of one of my monitors was engaged........... So two different sounding monitors!

    I recallibrated today, and sounds so much better as Reference hasn't got to equalize for the false setting........dumb me!!!!!!!

    Played some reference tracks fo myself, and it felt ok now.
     
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  17. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Distinguished Member

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    I tracked mixed for years on a set of meyer hd1 speakers before learning that the pins on the balanced connection jacks were reversed on those speakers. So they in phase with each other, but were polarity reversed, flexing inward when bass hit instead of outward. How professional of me huh?..
     
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  18. pcrecord

    pcrecord Quality recording seeker ! Distinguished Member

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    I think we all have our moments.. Bought new DI a year ago.. First use, I checked everything before I found I forgot to turn on phantom power. Never did that mistake since tho ! lol ;)
     
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