Digi 002 or control 8 + rack

Discussion in 'Consoles / Control Surfaces' started by audiotic, Apr 25, 2005.

  1. audiotic

    audiotic Guest

    What is the better route? The Digi 002 or control 8 + digi rack? The price is quite similar so I'm quite confused. I'm leaning towards the rack and controller but still can't figure out what I'm missing...

  2. Duardo

    Duardo Guest

    You're not really missing anything with the combination, and I prefer it that way personally...I don't want all of my cables strewn across my desktop if they don't have to be. If you ever go out to do mobile recording it's nice to not have to lug around the control surface. You also get a few things with that setup you don't get with the tabletop 002 like extra MIDI ports and the Command 8's more advanced control room functionality. It does cost a bit more, but only marginally so.

  3. JBsound

    JBsound Guest

    I'm going to agree with Duardo and say go with the 002r and the command 8. I think it would be much more versatile than having only the 002.
  4. miks

    miks Guest

    Yep, duardo is right. I have the rack and the control 8 (although i dont believe the control 8 is really usefull). But the combination is better than the digi 002.

    You wont have all the input cables on your desk when using the rack.
  5. stickers

    stickers Active Member

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    Plus you can always upgrade one or the other.
  6. overlookfran

    overlookfran Guest


    I have the 002r and an old mackie HUI, which is clunky sure, but has features these newer control boards just dont have. it rocks!! why they stopped making it i have no idea...but the shame of it is, im stuck on pt 6.4 since they wont support it any more past it. not even as a legacy...i dont think.
    i love the hui...but its value drops with every day that goes by.
  7. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    It's really a personal choice when it comes to using a control surface or not.

    Most of the engineers in my studio hate them, including myself.

    I forced myself to try one for several months and all it really did was slow my work-flow by 50 % or more. I can mix way faster with a mouse and keyboard.

    But again, it's a personal thing. Ask around some more to get a feel for how other engineers feel. Oh, I guess you just did.

  8. overlookfran

    overlookfran Guest

    actually, i can see that. I'm fluent in Pro Tools keyboard shortcuts, so I often find myself slamming the keyboard over the control surfaces shortcut.
    but you cant beat the control surfaces shortcyts for arming all tracks at once with one button, as well as FX automation ease, and motorized fader automation. id hate to have to make automation passes for every track. the HUI, i can do 8 at once accurately. but i see the point.
    i thought of unloading the HUI several times since i felt I could get away with keyboard shortcuts...but its nice having that "mixer" feel.
  9. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    Do you ever find that a hui control has a bit of lag?

  10. Duardo

    Duardo Guest

    Probably because it was 2-3 times the price of the Mackie Control, not expandable, and the extra features it did have most people didn't really take advantage of. And they were much less reliable than the newer control surfaces have turned out to be.

    That reminds me of one other advantage to the 002R/Command 8 combination, and that is that if you want to use a tabletop 002 with any other software, only its I/O features work. The Command 8 can be used as a generic MIDI controller with other software packages.

    This I find very interesting. Just out of curiosity, did you "learn" audio in a DAW or with a more traditional analog mixer/recorder-type setup? I know that a lot of people who have learned on software don't find them to be necessary, but I haven't talked to a lot of people who have said that they actually hate them. I've gotten pretty goood with the keyboard and mouse, but there are some things you just can't do without a control surface, like tweaking two knobs at once, or pulling some faders up and others down at the same time, or muting or arming a bunch of tracks at once...those things I really missed between the time I sold my mixer and got my Command 8.

  11. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    Well since I've been engineering for about 22 years, I certainly didn't "learn" how to mix in a Daw environment.

    In fact, I,ve mixed several thousand songs on an old Trident with zero automation. I just feel that the layout of control surfaces leave a lot to be desired and usually interupts my work flow more that helps it.

    But, like I said, it's a personal thing. Choose what's best for you.

  12. Duardo

    Duardo Guest

    Thanks...I was just curious. I certainly agree it's a personal thing.

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