End of the Loudness War

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  1. taxman

    taxman Active Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    Could this be the end of the loudness war? The beginning of the end?

    Check out todays article in the NY Times.

  2. MarkG

    MarkG Guest

    There was another article posted here a few months back very similar to this one, but believe me I'm NOT complaining!

    The more education on this subject the better. Maybe eventually the general public will demand better (more dynamic) recordings.

    I am getting tired of listening to CD's that hurt my ears regardless of how much I try to turn down the volume. I am constantly trying to tell my clients that you want the listener to have the urge to turn UP thier CD rather than turn it DOWN.

    (full disclosure, yes, I have occasionally been guilty of abusing mastering tools at a clients request. Sorry)
  3. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    is it just me or does this come on the eve of the mudcrutch release by design?

    No, it's not just me ;)
    Yes, it is by design?

    Who is TP's fan base? I bet your in it :)
  4. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Member

    Sep 26, 2005
    It's about time. Most all good engineers produce recordings that are wonderful to listen to without further dynamics screwing. Although, a little fine "finishing"/mastering to obtain consistency throughout could/should still be performed in the guise of Quality Control. We're all tired of over blasted loudness for loudness sake. Great if you're a death metal mutant. Not great if you like listening to music..

    Now, I'm not so terribly convinced that releasing a CD that is from a "for vinyl release" Master is the right thing to do? That was one of the biggest problems when CDs were first released as vinyl equalized/process masters were utilized. So some of those were already another generation down. That Master may already contain filtering that combines all low frequencies to Mono blow 250 hertz. That adds high frequency limiting to offset the high frequency preemphasis used in the cutting process. To me, this is idiotic foolery! If you want vinyl sound? Purchase a vinyl recording. I personally would like to hear what ever can be retrieved through our current technologies without having to listen to something that compensate for a vinyl cut.

    So, no, I think this is just a marketing thing since, Tom Petty, has nothing musical to offer either.

    Now go stuff that in your digital to analog converter and smoke it.
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  5. Greener

    Greener Guest

    This loudness war, could it have anything to do with the prevalence of earbuds and crap little mobile music devices?

    The tech used to make music "loud" like that is the same tech used to make ads louder on TV. Luckily I don't watch.

    Mastering for Vinyl is a great thing.
    Sticking that master on a CD is F^(#ING redundant.
  6. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    Cocoa, FL
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    I'll believe the title of this thread when I hear it!
  7. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Chicago area, IL, USA
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    One tiny battle in the loudness war...

    "El Two da" is still out there...
  8. Piccadilly

    Piccadilly Guest

    Didn't the loudness war end when Sleater-Kinney released The Woods?

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