Equipment list

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by Thomas1096, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. Thomas1096

    Thomas1096 Guest

    Hi guys... and gals,

    I am about to begin converting a building for a recording studio. I wanted to share my list of equiptment with you all to see what I am lacking, or if there is an area that I could improve upon.

    1- Neuman TLM 193 mic
    1- AKG 414 b-uls
    1- furman head phone distribution amp
    1- Furman sat
    1- Soundtrax Topaz consol
    1 pair of Alesis Monitor one non powered (I know.. I know)
    1- power amp for Alesis
    1- VTP 1 preamp
    1- Rolls preamp
    2- rolls compressors
    1- Nuendo computer setup (waves plugins)
    1- Cubase SX computer set up(waves plugins)
    1- Tascam FW 1082 to control comptuers
    1- BRC alesis
    2- ADAT XTs
    1- Tascam DAT machine
    1- Lexicon PCM 80

    My plan is to have 3 ISO rooms for vocals, Instruments....etc.... 1 drum booth. 1 main room. 1 control room.

    Off the top of my head, I know I will need great drum mics. I will also need another vocal mic.

    All suggestions welcomed... and thank you for them in advance....
  2. backinthelab

    backinthelab Guest

    Room treatment. If your rooms aren't acoustically treated then you're probably going to want to get that done, no sense on spending dough on mics if you can't get a good sound.

    If you've already done the treatment, then, you're right, a nice set of drum mics would be a good investment. You could stock up on the go-to mics (SM57's). Or, some outboard pres would work.
  3. Jeremy

    Jeremy Active Member

    Aug 9, 2005
    From LV but Army brought me to TN
    If you want a killer set of drum mics get the audix dp5's. It has great mics, and you can get the set for a killer price on ebay right now. by the way the i5 slays the sm57.
  4. dementedchord

    dementedchord Well-Known Member

    May 11, 2006
    FWIW... you didnt say which versions of cubase and nuendo your going for... are you aware that they are virtually IDENTICLE???? yep... nuendo simply adds a bunch of post production features the audio/midi/vst/vsti's are the same... incedently steiny is also dropping the support for dxi standards so not sure i would put alott of money in waves until they do vst3 standards... or are you using cracks???
  5. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Sunny & warm NC
    Home Page:

    Welcome to RO!

    Well, here's a fun little list to contemplate... some REAL obvious, some maybe not, in random order, but none of it intended to offend... OK?

    Business Plan
    Business Licence(s)
    Good Attorney
    GREAT Accountant
    Understanding Banker
    Domain w/ftp/streaming capabilities
    GOOD firewall
    twice as many XLR cables as you can imagine needing
    Rod Gervais' book (See Acoustics Forum two floors down)
    Good Guitar Amp
    Decent keyboard or three (Rhodes, B3, Triton)
    Decent Bass Rig
    Yamaha, Gretch, or Sonor kit
    A couple of dbx 160XT's
    Waves L2 or Maxx BCL
    Decent Midfields/Bryston
    A couple more 414's
    Coles or DPA pair (A couple of decent ribbons)
    421's - can't have enough.
    Good Tube Mic
    a pair of Bricks
    Great River 2 channel Pre
    Solid Patchbay w/Patch cables (Same qty as mic cables)
    Coffee Maker - Bunns are the stuff!
    a pair of U87's are always nice - (I wish I had a pair!)
    3rd ADAT for when one dies
    maybe an HD24?!? (Then you can use the ADAT's as backups)
    4-6 SM57's (Never know when you might need a hammer)
    PCM 91
    Rev 7
    D-Two or a 2290
    300L or 480L
    Orville or H3000
    Cases of acoustic Caulk... and I mean CASES!!!
    OC 702 and/or 704
    Good drywall knife
    Decent chop saw
    10" Table saw... Delta, Rockwell... (2Hp should hold ya) Get a GOOD rip fence!
    Plunge Router and Standard Router - at least 1.5Hp
    Orbital, palm and belts sanders
    Fire retardent fabric for asthetic treatment of absorbtion materials
    2 Big heavy duty boom stands w/shock mount capabilities
    1 each - D112, Beta 52, D6 and RE20
    200-500 ft of #4 to #8 stranded copper ground wire
    Greenlee punch set - get the hydraulic set, the hand turn is a PITA!
    Drywall driver
    Variac Lighting controls... they're really just as cheap as a high end SCR dimmer
    Use good quality lighting fixures... less noise from the get go
    Keg-er-ator if you feel brave - (get a key box for car keys)
    2500-4000 microwave... don't wanna' keep replacing em' every 6 mos.
    Nice wine glasses
    Cheese board - get something with some flare, but not too fancy
    Take out and delivery menus
    X-Box 360
    Poker Table/Pool Table/Ping-pong table (choose one)
    Vonage and Skipe Accounts
    Dozen packing blankets
    1 case spiral notebooks
    Paper plate holders
    First Aid kit
    fire extinguisher for each room - ABC rated
    IceMelt/Rock Salt - Liabiliy Issues... JEBUS!! - besides... you can get an ice cream maker for the summer and REALLY have a treat!
    DVD player
    large screen TV/Monitor
    Decent digital camera to document the build and to keep up with the clients who come into the studio

    and finally...

    EXCELLENT divorce lawyer on retainer... you never know when/if you may need it, right?
    (Especially when you spend all your time in the new studio playing with all the new toys!)

    Good luck!
  6. stickers

    stickers Active Member

    Jan 31, 2005
    Lowell MA
    Home Page:
    wow max..nice list.

  7. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Sunny & warm NC
    Home Page:
    Not really... actually in quite a good mood! (Just scored an RCA 44B for $CHEAP!)

    That and Thomas just made me think of the everything it really does take to get a studio up and operational... it really is soooo much more than just the gear... it really that bad to note all of it?

    I'm going through it right now and I'm pretty amazed at all of the things I've gotten or need to get/do... kinda' mind numbing at times trying to keep it all straight...

    seriously... the fire extingushers are a for real item! It can save you almost 15% on the insurance premiums!
  8. Thomas1096

    Thomas1096 Guest

    For everybody BUT MadMax, thank you for your replies..

    MM, Just kidding.... Thank you too.
  9. Thomas1096

    Thomas1096 Guest

    Well, It so happens that I have had both for sometime. I remember my first setup... still have the disk and dongle (green)...... been with them since cubase 3.7 r2. So no, I do not use cracks.

    And no it is not true that they are the same. I know my products. At one point the audio engines were different. Midi too.
  10. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Sunny & warm NC
    Home Page:
    Thomas... hmmmm... yeah man, you're welcome :cool:

    Sure, some of the list is in fun, but I'm really serious about most of it being the stuff you find out about once you decide yer' just crazy enough to actually want to do this!

    Like the poker table/pool table/ping pong table... I wish I had room for a pool table in the studio, but I think the table in the lounge will have to double as a poker table and if I can ever scrounge enough money to afford a pool table for the house, I might try to put one in the basement.

    I've searched all kinds of studios' websites, and seems like just about all of the "bigger" shops have a darned X-Box! Guess that's part of the gig an' just somethin' else I oughta' plan on gettin' at some point... It's all about keeping the client happy!

    Looks like you've got a good start on the gear front, though... so, go for it!! I'm pretty sure your own list of insanity will develop... I took cues from Paul Woodlock's studio build... and yup... it's happening to me too!
  11. Thomas1096

    Thomas1096 Guest

    Thank you..... glad to be here.

    Thank you again

    Thank you for taking the time to think of all of those things. While I know some of them may seem odd to some, and me for that matter, you bring up very valid points.... the one of a business plan is a great one.

    I hope you responde to the ones where I asked for more about why that certain thing....
  12. Thomas1096

    Thomas1096 Guest

    I will not have room in my studio for the pool table or things like like. I will be working with a space that is 20 x 34. I do have a pool table though.. If I had room, it would be there. In fact, I don't have space for it in the house!!

    Also, I know Paul and followed his venture. Know him from the Cubase forums.
  13. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    The ground wire is exactly what its named for. Ground EVERYTHING groundable. To a single copper bus located at your service point. Dont take this stuff to the inside of the panel. Mount a busbar outside of the panel and run a good-sized wire from the panel to this. Also, Isolate this bar from anything it might come into contact with that can carry current. Any high end electrical wholesaler will know what all this is. I dont know where you live, but sometimes the soil conditions of your area will require you to add a driven rod or two at 6' intervals. If you are pouring a slab then add a continuous piece of rebar that is not tied to the rebar used in the forming. The reason I say this is there can be too much earthing in some cases...A 20' section , isolated and then turned up to your service point will be what the equipment is going to want to 'see'. Its really amazing how much noise you can eliminate like this. As well as the safety part of eliminating 'potentials'...

    An outboard reverb unit can come in handy when your tracking vocals.. Even if you dont record it, some vocalists get much better tracks if they hear a polished sound in the phones.

    The packing blankets can be a great sort of portable sound control. Packing quilts and office dividers are very cheap and efficient ways of deadening sections of a live drum area. This sort of separation gets you a lot farther along on sound quality than many thousands of dollars spent on gear ever will.
  14. dementedchord

    dementedchord Well-Known Member

    May 11, 2006
    glad to hear you dont do cracks... surprising how many do... as to the differences... you'll have to argue with steiny on that one man because they say it's the same.... and has been for a while... btw if you dont need the extra features of nuendo they've got a crossgrade offer of any version of nuendo to C4 (mine was 2.268714+687168716841981) that's only good to the 15th if youwant to take advantage of it.... i recommend it highly... only $199.... havent decided yet if i'll make the N4 jump when it comes out (probably at namm)
  15. Thomas1096

    Thomas1096 Guest

    Thanks man.. In fact thank you to everybody for all of the information....

    It is ashame that my Lexicon PCM 80 is not doing much these days....

    got you on the packing blankets......
  16. Thomas1096

    Thomas1096 Guest

    Thanks man.. In fact thank you to everybody for all of the information....

    It is ashame that my Lexicon PCM 80 is not doing much these days....

    got you on the packing blankets......
  17. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Sunny & warm NC
    Home Page:
    Ain't you discusting!?! :p

    Yeah... where I'm at right now too, but I'm really gonna push for the extra bandwidth.

    Saw your post-n-pix... I'll comment there to save space/topic here.

    True here too, but what I found is that their's will take a dive at the worst possible moment, or they want something just a bit different that their amp. e.g. if most of em' are bringin' twins, get an AC30 or a JC120... heck I ended up with a little Marshal hybrid... get's used quite a bit.

    I hear ya! I've got the Rhodes and and an RT3... the Baby Grand's a ways away.


    ??? both???

    Been seeing those Avalon comments too. Haven't used one, but I do like the Great River I have. Super clean and tons-o-gain.


    DD already hit this

    Yup, Kik mic's... Variety is the spice of life!

    Again, DD addressed.

    Mississippi... probably not... (I'd STILL do the Ice Cream maker though!!!)

    You too?!? Dang Thomas, we seem to have a bit in common!! (I'd be afraid if I were you!)

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    Nice work!

    Hope I answered some of your questions.

  18. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Sunny & warm NC
    Home Page:
    Edit: DUPLICATE Post
  19. Thomas1096

    Thomas1096 Guest

    LOL... MM, It's been great man. Thanks for all the advice. Dad always told me that 2 heads are better than one.

    I am going to print this out so that I can hang on to it....
  20. stickers

    stickers Active Member

    Jan 31, 2005
    Lowell MA
    Home Page:
    They have electricity in mississippi??

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