Giving stereo expansion to vocal tracks

Discussion in 'Vocals' started by Hemophagus, Jun 18, 2004.

  1. Hemophagus

    Hemophagus Member

    Jun 13, 2004
    I'm recording a band and I would like to add a little more "fatteness" for the vocals in order to give a more stereo spaced impression. I tried to put the vocals on 2 tracks, pan towards Left and Right each and then I tried some delay from 1 to 30 ms between the two tracks. The result was like adding a chorus effect. Then I tried to put a bit of different EQ on each channel, but it isn't the sound I'm looking for...

    I used an AKG SolidTube and dbx376 as mic pre for recording the vocals.

    I've listened some good sounding vocals and they sound like if the treble frequencies were sounding "open" (L and R) and mid & bass frequencies at the center of the mix.

    Does anyone know some tips to get close to this objective?
  2. radioliver

    radioliver Guest

    just eq the vocal the way you want it to sound and add a quick delay left and right. this delay will be heard mostly on treble sounds like "S" which gives you the impression that the treble is wider than the bass. That's really all you need.
  3. djui5

    djui5 Guest

    I'd recommend doing multiple takes of the vocal track....4 to be exact.

    take 1: High pass filter at 800hz, de-ess, compress and pan -45
    take 2: High pass filter at 900hz, de-ess, compress and pan 45
    take 3: Low pass filter at 4khz, compress and pan to -5
    take 4: Low pass filter at 3.8khz, compress and pan to 5

    You can use a single verb for the whole lot of takes (single aux bus)...and eq those verb returns to taste (boost upper end for air....high pass filter around 80hz). If you use a stereo verb...make sure it's true stereo (no crossing of paths in the unit) and pan the outputs to -45/45, not hard left/right.

    The vocalist has to be able to double his/her vocals properly for this to work...

    hope this helps.
  4. Hemophagus

    Hemophagus Member

    Jun 13, 2004

    Thanks djui5, I'll try it.
  5. djui5

    djui5 Guest

    Re: thanks

    Cool..let me know how it works out
  6. promisespro

    promisespro Guest

    :cool: Hi Randy :D You are Great my friend :cool:


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  7. Hemophagus

    Hemophagus Member

    Jun 13, 2004
    i tried...

    I tried the two methods:

    The delay worked fine, but it wasn't the effect I was after... but it works perfect with some backing vocals. Thanks Radioliver.

    Djui5, your method is more difficult to "set up", but the results are nice. Thanks.

    But the method I used was another. I recorded leading vocals as normally, and then I recorded again another track but this time I told the singer to "whisper" all the lyrics. Then, in the mix I left the main vocal track at centre, and then I doubled the whispering track panning each channel towards left and right respectively, adding a little dealy to the "right channel" of the whispering tracks.

    This worked so well and sounded good, but I'm still developing this technique...

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