Grot box to replace the NS10M?

Discussion in 'Monitoring' started by Blenn, Nov 1, 2004.

  1. Blenn

    Blenn Guest

    Any suggestions? The NS10 was, to me, a horribe sounding speaker that did an excellant job for mid range mixing. But they dont make em any more. Has anyone got any suggestion as a replacement. So far I have heard of the new Yamaha MSP5 and the Triple P Pyramid. Any others worth mentioning?


    Paul Blenn
  2. Krou

    Krou Active Member

    May 27, 2001
    KRK V6II - $700/pr.
  3. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    I haven't found anything to replace ns-10's. They are still available on Ebay, although get ready to spend big $$$. Replacement parts are still available also. I just bought 3 sets of woofer and tweeters so that I'll be set for quite some time.

    My other reference monitor? A $29.00 Panasonic boombox.

  4. radioliver

    radioliver Guest

    aren't they 350-500$ on ebay??? That's not big money...
  5. LittleDogAudio

    LittleDogAudio Active Member

    Sep 24, 2004
    I've seen them for around $600-$1,000 myself.

    I haven't done a search for them in over a year, so maybe they are more reasonable now.

  6. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Chicago area, IL, USA
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    Wharfedale Diamond Pro 8.2's... Around $300.

    But there's a problem as using them as an NS10 replacement - They actually sound pretty good. :lol:
  7. -=_CZ_=-

    -=_CZ_=- Active Member

    Nov 7, 2004
    I recently went on a listening expedition to see what was happening in the world of nearfields, and to see what might augment my NS-10s...

    I was a little bit apalled by what I heard: Lots of powered two way systems that had hyped one-note bass and didn't image at all.

    I decided to go in the other direction. I put together two different systems, each using a single fostex 'full-range' driver. One a 5"(FE127) and one 6.5" (FE166). These are largely flat from 70-20k on the 5" system and 50-22k on the 6.5" system. The larger driver beams a bit in the HF as you would expect. But for mixing this is a good thing. The imaging is great and there is not a trace of 'phaseyness' from console reflections, or crossover (there is no crossover!). After mixing several projects on these I went back to my NS-10s for a moment. Now, I love NS-10s, but for the first time I noticed the phase hole in the crossover, and a 'comb-filtery' vagueness of the center image.

    I find the full range systems to be a valuable mixing tool, if you think the snare is a little on top of the vocal, it is. On many of the popular powered 2-way systems there is a phase/frequency hole right where the attack of the snare is, causing the producer to ask you to turn it up too much! The proof came when I took a project to Sterling for mastering. The engineer was exstatic about the balances -particularly in the midrange- noting that everyone is overly concerned with the bottom end and the top end, which he felt were easily dealt with in mastering.

  8. maintiger

    maintiger Well-Known Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Whittier, California, USA
    yeah, 300 to 500...

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