Guitar micing question

Discussion in 'Guitars' started by gameofsk8, Jan 20, 2009.

  1. gameofsk8

    gameofsk8 Guest

    I have a Senneiser e609 and when I mic my cabinet I have to crank the volume really loud to get some decent output BUT when I just talk in the mic it pics up everything just fine.

    I run it through a firebox and have to put the gain all the way up. I'm placing the mic right against the cab in the middle of the bottom part of the speaker.

    Am I placing the mic wrong?

    I don't understand how it can barely pick up something so loud but will pic up my normal talking voice no problem

    please help
  2. music293

    music293 Active Member

    Dec 24, 2008
    I also use the 609 and don't have any problems with it?

    Where are you placing the mic in relation to the cab?

    Also, what you do you mean by decent output? Is that to say tonality, or volume?
  3. gameofsk8

    gameofsk8 Guest

    Im placing the mic right against the cab on the upper right speaker of my 4x12. The mic is right over the lower part of this speaker in the middle of the outer circle (dont know what to call it).

    When I say decent I mean volume the tonality sounds great.

    But this "decent" volume isn't loud enough, I'm just able to hear it barley over the midi drums.

    I use logic and my channel strip gets about 1/3 output from the reader (if that makes any sense)

    I just want to be able to record a decent volume track without putting my volume up past 12 o'clock, I don't even put it this loud when I use the same cab and head to play shows.

    The thing that bothers me is that It will barley pick up my cab even though when I talk into it I get excellent output.
  4. Greener

    Greener Guest

    Turn the pre up, or turn the drums down...
  5. music293

    music293 Active Member

    Dec 24, 2008
    Greener might be right...

    When you talk into the 609 and play it back, are you playing it back against your programmed drums? If you aren't then you may be suprised to learn your voice isn't so clearly heard and those drums need to come down. However, if this is not the case, then yeah, check your pre. Also, have you checked with other mics to see if the 609 is the issue? It might sound silly, but if you can eliminate what the problem is not, it always helps you get closer to what the problem is.
  6. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    This may be a stupid question, but are you using the correct side of the mic?.....Ignore that!!! though it has happened.......How about that speaker? Working? I have seen mics stuck on speakers that simply were not in business....try a different one if you have more than one.
  7. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    Dec 18, 2008
    Western Pennsylvania, USA
    You're right SK8, something doesn't add up.

    Davedog raises a good question, you may be putting the mic in front of a blown speaker.

    And I have seen people use the 609 backwards before, even though it says "Front" on the silver side. (the silver side faces your cabinet)

    Are you wearing headphones while you're tracking the guitar?
    Are there other sounds in the room while recording that might be cancelling out or overpowering the guitar?
    In other words, are you blasting the drum tracks in the room while you're recording the guitar with a live mic?

    Just trying to think of possible causes....

    FYI: From the middle out - The dome in the center of a speaker is the dust cap. The rigid cone-shaped sides of a speaker is just called the cone. The outer edge is just called the 'edge' when it's paper. When it's not made of paper, it would be called a foam surround or cloth surround, depending on what it's made of. We won't get into what's behind that.
  8. bubbles45

    bubbles45 Member

    Jan 27, 2009
    Is it possible you're plugging the mic into the instrument port on the Firebox?

    Or if you're dangling the mic could the cable be stressed out?

    But the real question is, why not plug your guitar directly into the Firebox instrument port? That would definitely simplify things.
  9. Nirvalica

    Nirvalica Guest

    Well, then he wouldn't get the tone of the amp. That's pretty important as it adds to the guitar's tone, especially if he uses the amp's on board distortion.

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