Help me set up my Drum recording chain etc..

Discussion in 'Drums' started by Lerxst, Dec 6, 2007.

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  1. Lerxst

    Lerxst Guest

    Preramble: I have been primarily using drum samples in my recordings and am looking to make the next big step to recording a full acoustic set. I currently have a home studio located where else, the basement, and have quickly figured out that a dead room isn’t always ideal, especially when it comes to drums. To the dismay of my wife, I have found that the first story family room has a fabulous sound with 20’ ceilings. So, the idea is to set the kit up there and run a snake to the basement (man cave).

    What I need help/advise with is with some of the equipment, set up (i.e. using what mic’s and preamps where etc..), and some guidance before I go spend money on what I think I want.

    Here is outboard gear I currently have to work with: (I have a total of 16 individual channels on my converters)

    The Kit: (Mapex Pro-M)
    Floor Toms (2): 16x16 – 18x16
    Rack Toms(2): 10x9 – 13x10
    Snare: Pork Pie little squealer
    Kick: 24x18
    Cymbals: Sabian AAX – 12”, 16”, 20”, and a 12” china
    Hi Hats: Sabian AAX - 14”


    Mic’s:
    Beyer M300 (1) (no ideas)
    Shure SM57 (3) (top/bottom snare?)
    Shure SM58 (2) (Rack toms?)
    Sennheiser MD421 (1) (Floor tom?)
    AKG 414B XL 2 (1) (In front of kick?)
    Rode K2 (1) (room mic?)
    Superlux CM-H8A (1) (no ideas)
    Audix D6 (1) (inside kick)

    Preamps:
    Onboard pres in my MOTU 896’s that I want to bypass, but there are sixteen if I wanted to use them – but I don’t.
    UA LA-610 (pre/comp)(1) (no ideas)
    Great River MP2NV (1) (overheads?)

    Comp’s:
    UA 1176LN (1) (room mic?)

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    Here is what I think I want to buy:

    Mic’s:
    Sennheiser MD421 (1) (other floor tom?)
    Shure SM81LC (2) (overheads)

    Preamps:
    API 500VPR 10 slot (1)
    API 512c (10) (everything but overheads?)

    Other:
    12x4 100’ snake (1) I have an old rapco snake, but I’m not sure of its sonic quality, so recommendations here are also welcome.

    Also, should I run the pre's closest to the mic's and kit or in the cave at the other end of the snake by the converters - or does it matter?

    Thanks,
    ~Steve
     
  2. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

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    This sounds really great. API's on the kit! INSTANT 'that sound'.....

    Everything you list is geared to making an incredible drum noise. If you wanted a 'woolier' kick drum sound the UA would work there. I would opt for it at the get-go and the 1176 on the snare. You have a great grasp on everything else.
     
  3. Lerxst

    Lerxst Guest

    Thanks for the reply Dave! A good affirmation of where I'm attempting to go with the Drums. I'll try out your suggestions.

    Do you have any comment about where I should run the pre's? I mean as far as location with regard to the snake that I will have to run. Should I have them close to the kit and mics, or at the other end of the snake in the control area downstairs? Does it matter technically/sonically?

    Thanks,
    ~Steve
     

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