Hey Doc and friends: Take a look at this!!

Discussion in 'Microphones & Recording' started by Alécio Costa - Brazil, May 19, 2003.

  1. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    PSP Vintage Warmer has just been released. I have to tell you that it sounds pretty cool. I have been using it a lot and the price is pretty decent!.

    Well, take a look at this:

    PSP VintageWarmer is a high-quality digital simulation of an analog-style, a single or multi band compressor/limiter. It combines warm analog sound with a straightforward user interface, and comes with a rich library of presets. The plug-in processor is highly flexible and can be used for both single and multi-band compression, as well as brick-wall limiting. This makes it an essential tool for mixing and mastering engineers. Careful attention has been paid to PSP Vintage Warmer's overload characteristics with the processor being capable of generating saturation effects typical of analog tape recorders. PSP Vintage Warmer also incorporates professional VU and PPM metering together with accurate overload indicators thereby assuring professional quality results.


    High quality signal processing algorithms
    Single or multi-band signal processing
    Shelf filters for bass and treble frequencies in single-band processing mode
    Control of bass and treble signal components in multi-band processing mode
    Accurately calibrated VU and PPM meters with the overload indicators
    96kHz and 192kHz compatibility
    Library of presets
    Price: 149$

    More info: http://www.PSPaudioware.com
  2. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Wow... thanks for the reminder as to how steep prices are for these things and the fact that I won't be touching anything other than freeware for the next five years or so. :(

  3. Hey gents,
    With the recent, excellent threads here about cost/quality/piracy, I think this particular thread opens up an interesting topic; How much is a reasonable price to charge for a plug-in? Doc
  4. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    Ten bucks? :s:

    Seriously though, when single plugins cost almost half as much as SONAR itself...

    *takes cover from Cakewalk shelling*
  5. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    I think PSP guys have juist released a cool plugin with a very reasonable price. $150 is very payable.
    Pay $800 for Waves C4 is too much...
  6. lambchop

    lambchop Active Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    New Jersey (right outside the Big Apple!)
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    Doc, I think that your question is very difficult to answer. The cost of a plugin is relative to the users need, competition, quality etc. The unfortunate reality is that many plugins are pirated due to their steep price and unknown quality. The other side of the equation is the creator should be compensated for his/her effort. I personally think that certain companies gauge the end-user with their horrific prices (Waves etc.) which only gives incentive to the pirates and this becomes a vicious cycle. No plugin is worth $800 in my own opinion. One possible way to rationalize the proper price might be to equate the ratio of the plugin to its hardware counterpart against the ratio of the recording software/hardware (interface) to its hardware counterpart. Seems to me if you paid a total of $2-3,000 for your recording software and audio interfaces, and its hardware counterpart would cost, say $20-30,000, an $800 figure would be very hard to legitimize for a plugin suite.
  7. falkon2

    falkon2 Well-Known Member

    Mar 17, 2003
    I like the idea of the ratio thing - Makes a whole lot more sense.

    Then again, the companies probably base their prices off the market demand - not as many people are going to buy a high-end plugin suite as there would be mindless drones picking up the latest Avril Lavinge CD, and those who NEED the plugin suite, WOULD be able to afford it. (Or a significant portion, at least).

    Lets say there are 50 people who want Waves. at the price of $800, only 25 people buy - the rest are discouraged by the exorbitance.

    This is preferable to pricing it at, say, 100, and getting all 50 people to buy. Case #1, they make $20000 off the product. They only make 5000 in Case #2.

    Of course, I'm wildly shooting in the dark again, and those figures are somewhat blocky and rough, but that could be one reason behind the pricing. There simply isn't enough demand for them to turn a profit with lower prices.

    Again, which means I'll be sticking to freeware. =(

    *huggles digitalfishphones*
  8. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    But $150 for Vintage Warmer or Lexicon PSP 42 is quite fine.
  9. MisterBlue

    MisterBlue Member

    Mar 15, 2003
    Provocative question:

    WHY would you pay more for a hardware box than a software version of a plug-in (provided they sound the same)? You have the added convenience of not having to use up inputs and outputs of your DAW ... ? ;)

  10. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    Misterblue, we have to agree with Ethan Winner. What about companies going bankrupt?
    Oka, lots of people use [k]´s but that is not legal.

    I am amazed about the previous comment owards lexiverb. I dunno if it is really true, but cam make sense. As far as I know, it is not available for PT HD, right?

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