hey guys..i am new here...pro tools hd2

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by capellino, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. capellino

    capellino Guest

    i ve been recording in my home studio for many years
    i used an rme fireface 800 and rme mictasy mic preamp all these years
    but now i am going to open my own pro studio

    here is my setup now

    AMS NEVE 1073 DPD

    Neumann..shure and akg mics

    and klein + hummel monitors

    i ve reached a point that i think i should work with pro tools
    i ve never used the before...and i want some opinion..
    i know for sure that i ll get the hd 2
    but i dont know what interface or interfaces i should have that will go better for my setup
    should i go with the 192 plus and 8 analoge input expansion card..
    or for two 96 and a good converter?
    sorry for my english guys if they are not so good..i am greek..hehe
  2. basilbowman

    basilbowman Guest

    Having never played with ProTools myself, I'm not going to handle this one, but let it pass on to other wiser and more experienced. Then why did I even answer? Damit!
  3. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Dec 11, 2007
    Scotland, UK
    Like basilbowman I've never used ProTools, but the general opinion here is that ProTools is expensive and horrible to use. It's only used because of corporate domination, really.
    If you're set on it, fair enough.

    However, 192KHz is a joke IMO. For most needs you're better to stick with 96KHz and cut your processing and disk space needed in half, yet still retaining at least 99% of noticable quality.
  4. capellino

    capellino Guest

    hmmmm...i see...thats why i am confused!
    i dont know what interface..or interfaces will go for my setup
  5. capellino

    capellino Guest

    79 views and no suggestions?
    please help!
  6. basilbowman

    basilbowman Guest

    I just saw a post, I forget where, with REMY saying something along the lines of "If you need to learn PT, you can do it in about a week, thusly the only reason to learn it now is because there are a huge amount of books, tutorials, DVDS, etc. for PT." Paraphrased to be sure, but if it comes from REMY it must be useful, eh?

  7. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Apr 4, 2006
    Blacksburg, VA
    Whoa there Nathan - that came from me, and while it's still my opinion, I know a lot less about recording than Remy, so it should be taken with a grain of salt. Also, my comment was directed at someone starting a home studio who didn't (yet) need to meet the expectations of paying clients. Capellino's question seems to me more of a marketing question for a pro studio. He's looking at PT in order to satisfy clients. I certainly have no idea what clients expect in Greece, so I don't feel I can give him any advice. I guess my opinion can be summarized as "I want to use PT because the pros use it" is a bad reason; "I want to use PT because my clients want it" is a good reason - but to use that reason, you have to have clients, and they have to want PT.
  8. basilbowman

    basilbowman Guest

    Ah, my bad, many apologies - Guess I shouldn't be so hasty to jump in on topics I don't know what the hell I'm talking about and start misquoting others, eh? :) Doh!
  9. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Dec 11, 2007
    Scotland, UK
    "Better to keep your mouth shut and be presumed a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt."

    Oh nuts.

    (If you didn't get it, don't worry, it didn't work too well. The idea was that I said that and now I'm a fool)

    PS +1 to BobRogers.
  10. basilbowman

    basilbowman Guest

    I think I'm just going to start paying more attention to my signature...
  11. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Dec 11, 2007
    Scotland, UK
    Ah, shouldn't we all...
    Even just paying attention sometimes might help :)
  12. DaneStewart

    DaneStewart Guest

    If you are in L.A. or N.Y. you have to have PT HD3 at 192... And a grazillion dollars of everything else.

    If you're not... 96Khz and MORE TRACKS will get you the respect in your market.

    Once people hear "Pro-Tools HD" they just want to know how many tracks.
  13. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Staff

    Mar 20, 2000
    BC, Canada
    Home Page:
    Been sequencing and sampling for near 30 years. When I was introduced to PT back in the 90's, it operated like the rest of the high end gear I was used to... Totally Logical.

    I've been using PT for 10 years. IMHO, its popular for a reason.
    I'm dated with PT 24 mix plus++ and when I can afford to upgrade, I will continue to be a PT junky.
  14. Kev

    Kev Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    I use Pro Tools and have done since Mix 4.0
    I was on Sound Tools and worked on the early ProTools
    ... skipped the PT16 years
    while I was on Deck and had ADATs
    ( want to buy some ADATs anyone ? complete with BRC )

    currently on an HD2 and still mostly work at 44.1/24
    I have two 96IOs

    was keen to try the 192 but budget and client demands just didn't warrant ithe expense
    but was keen to try the soft clip thingy

    as for advice
    almost impossible without more info on your intentions and additional gear

    the 192 does offer the slots and more AES
    if you have a simple set-up and don't intend to go past 96k then keep things simple and save the money
    UP the number of I/Os
    get more DSP

    need more info
  15. MadMax

    MadMax Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Sunny & warm NC
    Home Page:

    Your English is probably as good or better than mine, so don't apologize! (HA!)

    You're already on the Mac platform, so ProTools will be a bit of a learning curve to get over. However, PT on the Apple platform was much easier to deal with than the Windows platform.

    While I'm no PT expert by any means, what I have learned so far is that there are converters out there that will give you much more "bang for the buck". The first one that comes to mind is the Lynx Aurora-16 with HD interface card.

    I'm an old analog console guy. I mix far quicker and better with knobs and faders in front of me, as opposed to just a mouse and keyboard. For me, the D-Command was the only choice if I was going to get into Pro Tools. This isn't true for everyone, so take that as just food for thought.
  16. kittonian

    kittonian Guest

    Max hit the nail on the head. The Lynx Aurora16 with the LT-HD interface option card is the absolute best way to interface with PT|HD. PT|HD is designed to work with the Digi 192 i/o and therefore all delay calculations and port configurations are specific to the Digi 192.

    Lynx was very smart in their design and made sure that their LT-HD interface card made the Aurora16 sample accurate and port accurate to the exact specs of the Digi 192 i/o. Therefore, you do not need any Digi interfaces and can go with the much better sounding and much less expensive Lynx Aurora16.

    The real cool thing about the Aurora16 is that it provides 16x16 analog AND 16x16 AES/EBU digital i/o simultaneously up to 192khz. It does this in a 1U form factor with no fan. To get the equivalent i/o using the Digi 192's you would need (2) fully populated 192 i/o's AND a digital 192 i/o.

    You can use a single Aurora16 per card, so if you are going with an HD2 you can use two Aurora16's. This would give you 32x32 analog AND 32x32 AES/EBU digital in perfect configuration with PT|HD.

    Hope that helps!
  17. Alécio Costa - Brazil

    Alécio Costa - Brazil Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    Pro Tools is pretty easy to use. In 3 hours you can teach all the basic info to a friend, student, musician.

    Generally all this BS bashing the DAw comes from people who have never operated a Mix/HD system.

    I myself have 2 systems and have been pretty satisfied with it. Forget 192khz. Dan Lavry has proved it is a market hype over Nyquist Theorem.

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