Hey guys , I need help with my setup

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by dax, Dec 21, 2002.

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  1. dax

    dax Guest

    Okay im new on this forum, I have been on another one that just sucked. So im glad to find people that actually know what they are talking about.

    But anyways, I am just setting up my daw for recording but im really confused on what I (really) need for what little I actually do.

    1st Question A/D Conversion

    I have been reading enough to know I want good A/D conversion, but I dont know how good I should go? I am a one man band kinda thing, I play guitar, bass, piano, and vocals. I have a drummer I call up every now and then to come and lay some beats down , and I give him like 50 bucks a song. So really I dont need alot of tracks, But I do want the 1 or 2 tracks to be HIGH QUALITY. So should I go with somthing like (M-Audio - delta series) or should I go with (Lucid - there 2 channel A/D deal?) I have never used a computer to record with so I dont know just how much better the lucid's would be than the Delta converters?

    2nd Question - Which damn mic pre?

    This is driving me crazy!! I just dont know which one to be, that would be suited for what I need, I am using a Studio Projects C1 mic, and it seems like everyone likes a differant mic pre? I have been thinking about the (FMR Audio RNP) or the (M-Audio DMP3) any suggestions folks?

    3rd and last question - Sub mix drums?

    Since I am only got the budget for a 2 channel thing here and still keep the quality, should I just take the 5 or 6 mics that are on the drums, and sub mix them in on a mixer, and then run them all through one channel, and leave the other channel for bass, guitar, ect.? And if I do that, would the quality of the mixer matter? I am thinking about a mackie 1202? or Soundcraft has the E series that look interestin? Any Suggestions?

    As you can see folks , I really need help, I really dont know anything, except how to play music.
  2. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Well-Known Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    Lovely handle. Hmmm. So…, what Forum was it that that sucked? :D he he. …. Come on, …. You can tell us… Ohh, I'm asking for it now…

    I rarely ever recommend all in one boxes but I like the Aardvark Q10. This would give you 8 channels in and out, the PCI card comes with it. The mic pres are there too and it's hard to beat Aardvarks clocking. That is a very good all in one solution. A little more involved and a little nicer would be the Focusrite OctoPre. 8 channels of class A mic pres, compressors and A to D conversion. You would need some type of ADAT compatible soundcard to accompany it and to provide the stereo outs for monitoring. The advantage with the OctoPre is the conversion cards are removable so in the future you have the possibility (???) of updating. They are currently capable of all rates from 16/44.1 to 24/96 and everything in between. The only PCI card I could recommend is the Frontier Dakota card which I use. This is an 18 in / out ADAT / spdif card. I like it a lot and it comes with very stable drivers, but it won't provide any analog out for monitoring, rather only ADAT or spdif digital outs. If you have an old DAT machine or CDR you can monitor through that, which is what I do. There are other PCI sound cards but I am not familiar with any of them. I know this is a little more than what you were asking about, but I really think you'll end up going this direction sooner than later. With something like this, you can record drums to 6 or 7 tracks and still have an input or two for guitar and/or bass. With the approach you're considering you will likely spend darn near as much as what I am recommending and you will only feel the need to expand your capabilities almost immediately. ………………… Fats
    It's my opinion, I'll play with it if I want to!
  3. dax

    dax Guest

    Well ceder,,, I guess I should'nt say that everyone on that other forum sucked , just about %80. (Just in case someone on here belongs to that other forum as well) lol . But if ya must know it was homerecording.com. Alot of people on there but not alot of know how going on with its members.

    But thanks for the heads up, the Aardvark looks nice, I didnt even know about the Q10, and the focusrite looks really good, and I like the changing out of the A/D converts. hmm I didnt really think about it but I guess your right. I might as well go for it, all that professional/bargin gear adds up to be expensive and leaving me with less.

    but with the Aardvark? does 96khz really matter?
    and with the focusrite? I think the pre's would be really awesome, but isnt the opti pre and converters, getting real close to the price of an apogee trak 2?

    but I think im going to look into the opti pre, as soon as I can find how much the converters are.

    Thanks alot Ceder
  4. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Well-Known Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    I just happen to have that information right here for you!
    Focusrite OctoPre $1169
    24 bit 96kHz S/PDIF AES-EBU, ADAT A-D $350
    9-pin RCA CABLE $50,
    AES-EBU 9-pin - XLR cable $50
    Keep in mind these are the list prices. Street price is usually 30% less.
    As far as the Apogee, it is a great box, but once again it's only 2 channels.
    Cool thing about the Aardvark. It's purple!
    96 K does make a difference, you can record higher frequencies that enrich the harmonic content of your mix's even at lower rates like 16/44.1! Fats
    It's my opinion, I'll play with it if I want to! & Pluleez call me "Fats". It's not like I'm asking you to call me the "N" word! :D
  5. dax

    dax Guest


    Thanks alot, With that info that you just gave me, and the info I gathered from the Focusrite site, I think I have made my decision!!!

    right on!

    Thanks Fats!
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