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How to save money when making audio purchases?

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by Kurt Foster, Aug 2, 2004.

  1. vinniesrs

    vinniesrs Active Member

    May 12, 2003
    I currently work as a commissioned sales rep. I think that if you came to me with that approach it might just work, BUT if you want really good deals say"I want to spend $xxx.xx and I need to get this". I'll work my ass off to get you the best bang for the buck. A good salesmen has your best interests at heart and he knows he can get your biz by doing a good job. When he get's your business he makes money too and everyone is happy. He'll give you a good deal and add value to your purchase by offering quality support and keeping you informed about good deals.

    I ALWAYS get killer deals and develop good relationships with those whom I buy from. Try it. :)
  2. Albert

    Albert Guest

    Developing a long term relationship with a dealer/salesperson is great thing. I've done that, having bought most of my gear from one place for the last 20 years. Believe me, after a while your loyalty will most certainly be rewarded with great prices, and you'll have someone who will probably also be willing to give you some unbiased advice as well. The trick is to find the right person in the first place.

    Ebay is useful for certain things, and I have bought a *ton* of gear from eBay sellers in the past few years. However, I feel the general quality and honesty of sellers is going down, and I'm having more and more problem transactions. The feedback system is somewhat broken because few people are willing to give negative feedback, knowing that the revenge negative feedback will mess them up in return. I'm at the point with eBay where I am considering only bidding on items in my local area that I can pick up in person and pay cash for. And even then it is easy to get burned, as I know from experience as well. eBay for me is now just for items that are out of production and impossible to get new.

    Nothing beats buying new from a dealer who will take care of you if there is a problem.
  3. LRosario

    LRosario Guest

    I don't know if it was already said but:

    Just have the band pay you in gear instead of money :D
  4. Reggie

    Reggie Well-Known Member

    Dec 20, 2004
    Hope you like Behr*nger!! :lol:
  5. freakydave

    freakydave Guest

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned studying the products, planning ahead, though all advice so far is good. (did someone mention Behringer? ew, ick, horror stories!)
  6. Antho

    Antho Guest

    "I'm surprised nobody has mentioned studying the products, planning ahead,"

    Yeah, studying and research of gear is almost as good as a return policy IMO. The net and user reviews are a fantastic avenue to make the right decision first time round. I have made many purchases from overseas and I've never been let down by this method, many of the units being totally new to me with no prior experience before buying.

    It's not for everyone, but I highly recommend it.

    I never buy on impulse unless it's off ebay and the price is right, and every single purchase represents months of passive planning (i.e, planning when there's spare time available).

    Yo Albert. Is that Albert from over at G.A.S station? If so Hi! SpeckO here :) otherwise, sorry for the case of mistaken I.D :)
  7. OmeN Records

    OmeN Records Guest

    Good Yet Affordable

    I'm sorry for the post, since I'm pretty sure that this topic is really old here, yet I'm new, this being my first post and all :-S

    I just finished remodeling my studio and I got a bit carried away with the accoustics, and looks of it and sorfof forgot that my budget included the microphones, so now I'm a bit short on my microphone budget, what microphones do you recomend that are full rounded and will do a pro-rated work in the studio, yet affordable, no Neumann's or Lawsons for now.

    Thanx for your replies
  8. Dro

    Dro Guest

    Got to admit I'm a lucky guy, have cought great sales, uhm.. Brand New Factory Bundle 002R retail 1595, I pay 600, Avalon 737 retail 2300, me pay 1600, TLM 103 retail 1200, me pay 750, all brand new and a bunch of othr cool gear too much to mention,that i run on a Dual 2.0 G5, have a Full Production Facility, and beginning to make money.

    I do work a FT job, AV Crew Resorts Casino, and have a Wife and a kid pay my rent, my car , my student loans from Full Sail :evil: , and still have money left over too keep buying gear, How I do it I dont know.

    To be fair most of My major purchases were made before my wife and kid came to the picture, so I'll advise you to do the same, AND YESSS Please buy QUALITY over Price, I can stress that more then it has already.

    Wish you all Success in the AUIDO WORLD!
  9. TonyBelmont

    TonyBelmont Guest

    This is the best advice that has been given in the entire thread. Finding a dealer/ studio professional to help you with gear decisions, and pricing, etc... The advice you will get will save you more time and money in the long run.
  10. hxckid88

    hxckid88 Active Member

    May 9, 2005
    WOW. We think alike. My first few bands I told them something like "I'll compromise, if you don't have the money to pay me, or you are uncomfortable with shelving out your hard earned cash, you can buy me some new equipment that will benefit you and the recording process, and you don't have to pay me in cash"

    Alot of these bands (im friends with alot of them) really have NO money but they just want to get a demo out. So I charge em really cheap, I just told them when you give out your demo, my name better be on it ;)
  11. moisiss

    moisiss Active Member

    Sep 19, 2006
    New York, NY
    Home Page:
    If you are going to set up a DAW you could build your own instead of buying a pre-built. I just priced three potential DAWs: A PC Audio Labs, an Apple Mac Pro, and a Custom Build (buying parts from Newegg.com). Here are the system specs...

    Pc Audio Labs: $4155
    Dual Intel Xeon 5150 dual core 2.66ghz
    Supermicro Dual Xeon Motherboard
    2GB DDR2-667 ECC : 4 x 512MB (Kingston)
    NVIDIA Geforce 7600GS 256MB DVI/DVI
    Samsung 16x Dual Layer DVD+/-RW
    250GB EIDE (HD 1)
    250GB SATA II (HD 2)
    Logitec Keyboard-Black
    Logitech Optical Mouse-Black
    Windows XP Professional
    Lian-Li Silver Aluminum Server case
    Standard Sound Level EPS (fans and 550W powersupply)

    Mac Pro: $3199
    Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
    2GB (4 x 512MB) DDR2-667
    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB (single-link DVI/dual-link DVI)
    One 16x SuperDrive
    250GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s (HD1)
    500GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
    Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
    Mac OS X - U.S. English
    Apple case (w/ fans and powersupply)

    Custom Build: $2782
    Dual Intel Xeon 5150 dual core 2.66ghz
    Supermicro Dual Xeon Motherboard
    2GB DDR2-667 ECC : 2 x 1GB (Kingston)
    NVIDIA Geforce 7600GS 256MB DVI/DVI
    Samsung 16x Dual Layer DVD+/-RW
    250GB SATA II (HD1)
    250GB SATA II (HD2)
    250GB SATA II (HD3)
    Logitech Keyboard and Mouse
    Windows XP Professional
    ChenMing case
    Asus 550W power supply and 2 low db fans

    To be fair to PC Audio Labs, the case it was configured with had a lot more features than the Custon Build case... but for me, most of then were a little too much (like 8-12 internal HD bays) so I went with a case that was closer (feature-wise) to the Apple case.

    The PC Audio Labs DAW also has less HD space. You can (obviously) always put more HD's in, but since it was alreay the most expensive setup, I left the extra 250 GBs out.

    The Apple comes with more software... but for a DAW alot of it might not be used.

    If you are going to custom build, just make sure to do your homework so you know that all the parts you are buying are compatible (a good place to start is the PC Audio Labs website.... they list all the parts that they put in their computers).
  12. Imaginaryday

    Imaginaryday Active Member

    Mar 15, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Yard sales! no kidding.
  13. JaePee

    JaePee Guest

    Great Advice! Nice way to look at things especially coming in as a new comer and we all make the mistake of feeling like we have to keep up with the Pros.


    SYNTHME Active Member

    Dec 30, 2005
    still wandering...
    A good tactic that has worked for me is:

    1) Do your research and find the lowest advertised price.
    2) Take the lowest price you have found to a large retailer that guarantees to beat any advertised price (Zzounds, etc).
    3) Take the new price and touch base with your reputable salesperson with whom you have developed a working relationship. See if they can further beat the price or at least match it.

    If you're good, you might get a few price matchers competing for your business. I'm not exactly a master, but it does feel strange when you call your reputable salesperson and they ask where you got "THAT" price and verbally express how painful it is to match. None the less, they usually take my money (what little I have) anyway. :(
  15. TVPostSound

    TVPostSound Well-Known Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    If you're time is worth anything, then searching for bargains will cost you in the long run.

    Like finding a bargain on Craiglist, by the time the guy gets back to you, haggle the price, work around the seller's schedule, you could have worked and make cash.

    My take, start a relationship with a GCPro account manager.
    I ALWAYS get rock bottom pricing!! I don't go to the counter, and hagle.
    I make a phone call, I drive down to GC, I walk upstairs to my account manager's office, my item is next to his desk with the invoice taped to it. (He has my CC number on file). Last purchase: Rode NT2-A $275.00!!!!
    I cant return ANYTHING including mics, which you normally can't due to health reasons. I can take an item home and test it. Last Christmas, I took home 3 of the same Ibanez Prestige guitars, and let my son try them all out, I returned the 2 I didnt like.
    I get the demo item as a loaner, when he has to order, then return the demo when my order comes in.
    My time is money, he saves me both!!!!
  16. Akira

    Akira Guest

    Tried and true

    There are some pieces of gear that are time less.
    1176 compressors, Neve preamps
    I still have a DBX 162 that I bought 22 years ago. It is worth more now than the day I bought it.
    Renouned microphones hold their value..U87, KM84 (name your choice)

    Some are just good buys. The modestly priced DBX 1066 is IMO the best product they have made. Speakers also have a long life and are one of the most critical pieces of gear in your studio...just make sure you like them.
  17. nickeveslage

    nickeveslage Guest

    The best way to get cheaper audio gear is to either work at a music store where you get a healthy discount on certain brands (hopefully good ones), or befriend someone at guitar center. If you're lucky, like I was, with this one you will actually enjoy conversing with them and value their opinion if they know what they're talking about
  18. tzer

    tzer Active Member

    Oct 23, 2007
    My process for saving $$ while developing our project studio is to be broke to begin with.

    Also part of my plan with our project studio band centers around learning how to use what little we have as best we can.

    Because we have been focusing on recording ourselves and figuring out how to improve our results using only our existing gear, we have refined our recording process to creatively work with/around what could be considered limitations.

    When we DO spend money on new gear, it's because we've pushed our potential beyond what our current gear can deliver. So we spend our money very wisely - which helps save $$ in the long run.

    So my tip (and I am about as far from pro as anyone here could be) but my tip is to focus hard on maximizing your potential with a little as possible. If you can get respectable results with your tinker toys, imagine what you can do when Santa bestows upon you some real fun stuff!

  19. fourone3

    fourone3 Active Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    Barter. I've traded great gear for service and visa versa.
  20. guitarbill

    guitarbill Guest

    Please help the balance of trade and buy good used gear locally from a reputable shop or individual when you know it will do the job. Your grandchildren will thank you for it if you explain to them why it was important for you to do your best to keep more of your $ in the local and the country.

    Or do like so many of us have done and build it yourself; live sound speaker boxes are easy!

    Keeping on regardless
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