How to -tv sound for optional monitoring

Discussion in 'Monitoring' started by Zane, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. Zane

    Zane Active Member

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    Hi, I have an audio output that needs to connect to the tv speakers independently while still have the hdmi connected for video. How do I do his? My hdmi tv doesn't have independent audio input. I just need to use the built in tv speakers As my second monitoring speaker in a studio mixing environment. While keeping the video connected thru hdmi. I can't seem to find any solution online. The only way I'm thinking is to electronically custom wire the built in speakers. But this would mean opening a 60 inch hd tv and custom wire the speakers. Which I don't actually know how to do it. Or have an external crappy mono speakers. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thank you in advance.
     
  2. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Staff

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    Welcome to our community.

    I've used a TV for additional monitoring purposes many times. I use a 3 way monitor controller to split of all sorts of speaker variables but basically my flat screen TV's are my visual studio monitors too. When I am mixing, I simply use the remote to turn the volume of the TV speakers up or down.
    If your computer has hdmi this shouldn't be a problem at all.

    Hope that helps.
     
  3. Zane

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    Thank you for the swift reply. I can monitor tv sound if I switch logic's out puts to hdmi. This is a pain, especially if im running multiple outputs thru a summing box. I will only get 1-2 outputs and not 3-4 5-6 etc..... i do have that dangerous st as my main controller which gives me additional monitoring. But I can't find a way to output it to tv while hdmi is still connected to tv. my flat screen tv doesn't allow independent audio input. Sorry for the long winded question. Just curious to find out if anyone has a work around. Thanks
     
  4. Zane

    Zane Active Member

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    For now my options are:
    1. To open up the flat screen, tap into the tv speaker amp. Isolate it, wire them as an alternate speaker thru my monitor controller. (I'm not too sure about opening a 60'' flat screen and closing it back again haha.. not a good idea. Way out of my expertise.
    2. To buy a shitty portable speaeker and mount it next to the flat screen to simulate tv sound.
     
  5. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

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    Assuming your TV has more than 1 HDMI input, this -> HDMI Audio Inserter,
    or something like it.

    I would definitely not recommend trying to bodge something to the TV.
     
  6. audiokid

    audiokid Chris Staff

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    Excellent.The Dangerous ST is a wonderful controller. (y)
    Not sure what to recommend for you now but I will often upload my mixes, then go to the IT room and listen to my mixes on the TV. I also use boom boxes.
     
  7. Zane

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    Haha.. I hope I wasn't going to do that. Thanks for the suggestion. I will read up on it and get back here for updates. If it can break the audio signal coming from hdmi and take a different audio input rang will be great. So I can have video from hdmi and audio from an alternate source.
     
  8. Zane

    Zane Active Member

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    Yea the dangerous ST is great. For now, I'm going with a shitty speaker, mounted next to the TV. I have clients in the room who wants to hear TV sound evertime I do final mix. It's really not a bad thing. Thanks
     
  9. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

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    If you're just using the TV as an alternative reference for audio, you'll be fine. However, injecting, extracting an analog audio signal into an HDMI signal alongside a digital video source will almost certainly introduce a little delay from latency. If it's critical the sound and video be frame accurate, you're liable t0 have issues.
     
  10. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Well-Known Member

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    I'm puzzled as to how feeding the mix through a cheap speaker placed next to a TV set counts as testing the mix on "TV sound".
     
  11. Smashh

    Smashh Active Member

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    The Tv is on at our place more than it should be , but in saying that it would be ideal for testing mixes
    because I know those flat screen speakers pretty well I reckon ...lol
    Some of the stuff coming out of those little speakers is amazing , new music vids , pop asia etc
     
  12. DonnyThompson

    DonnyThompson Well-Known Member

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    Maybe...but aren't the variables from TV to TV ( and to any speakers) a mile wide? I mean, what might sound great on your own TV isn't going to necessarily translate well to other sources... also, the broadcasters add their own processing, too, so comparing your audio through your TV to a high caliber commercial... it seems to me it wouldn't be all that trust-able ???
    But I can't say. I've never mixed through TV speakers before.
    That's why I have auratones. :)
     
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