how would you spend 15,000?

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by Kswiss, Mar 24, 2005.

  1. Kswiss

    Kswiss Guest

    I was reading an old post on PT versus Native systems, and i was wondering, compatability aside, if you were purely going for highest quality, and you had to start from scratch, would anyone buy a high end PT system, or would you by a Native system for much less, and buy the converters you want, and still have cash for pre's, etc. Just imagine you already have a nice acoustically treated rooms, monitor chain, and mics, but no recording system or pres, plug ins, or outboard gear. Where would you put your money. This is based solely on sound quality, not compatibility.

    Me personally I would invest in a native system that could stabley (is that a word) handle 48 tracks, probably coming in at around 5-7,000, and i would drop the rest in outboard gear and pres. I'm interested if compatibility wasn't an issue if more people would invest their money this way.

  2. heyman

    heyman Guest

    Radar 24
    Great river Mp2nv
    Api 3124
    Emp Labs Distressor
    UAD Pro Pack Plugins
  3. trock

    trock Active Member

    Aug 20, 2004
    SAW Studio - 2K
    RME Fireface 800 - 1.5K
    Avalon AD2022 - 2.5K
    Pendulum Quartet - 2K
    PC built for audio/dual monitors etc - 2K or so
    adams S2A - 1.5K
    AT 4060 - 1K
    AT 4040 - 300
    Neumann u87 - 2.5K
    SM57 - 80
    AKG C414 - 600

    something along these lines
  4. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    There's no reason a native system should cost that much unless you're going for the best in converters. I have a 18 in 18 out 24 bit system that I'm into for about $3000, that's converters, software, computer, OS and flat screen monitor.

    If money is no object, I would be getting the Apogee 16 in and out units. But that being said, I have always thought that good mics and pres were the most important thing to worry about. After that, monitors and the room. Of course, none of it is worth anything if there's no talent.
  5. dpd

    dpd Active Member

    Sep 29, 2004
    If I were going to spend that amount of cash I'd make sure a good amount of it went into room acoustics. (unless you have that one nailed.)
  6. gomp

    gomp Guest

    Liquor, beer and wine..........

    oh, and maybe a Neumann UM57.
  7. maintiger

    maintiger Well-Known Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Whittier, California, USA
    mac G5- 3k
    apogee converters 3k
    audio monitors- your pick, 1k +
    the rest split between mics and pres as needed
  8. maintiger

    maintiger Well-Known Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Whittier, California, USA
    forgot the daw, sorry- logic or Digital Performer- if DP also buy Mach Five so plan to spend 1K here- But that's only because I have always worked with macs and am not about to change now (see no reason- I get a good sound plus have my DP chops down) For someone starting out though a PC might be more economical, I don't really know-
  9. backinthelab

    backinthelab Guest

    I just did this....

    $4500 to finish studio construction. The rest...

    Genelec 1031A (Ebay) $2600
    RME Fireface $1400
    Sebatron VMP4000e $1300
    Focusrite ISA428 (Ebay) $1100
    A/D Option for ISA428 $575
    BLUE Kiwi (Ebay) $1200
    Soundelux iFet7 $1800
    Presonus Central Station (Ebay) $250
    Logic Pro 7 $1000
    Cabling $400

    I'm a few dollars over, but you get the drift....

    I have a UA 4110 on order too, this will put me even more in the hole!!!

    The native system is definately the best choice if you want some good outboard gear. PT is great for the big-wigs that an afford it all, but I bet you can't tell one of my mixes from one done on a PT system!
  10. jamiey

    jamiey Guest

    "imagine you already have a nice acoustically treated rooms, monitor chain, and mics"

    sheesh, doesn't anyone read the entire post anymore?
  11. tyzoo

    tyzoo Guest

    I would buy myself 10 sm 57s and i would give the rest to my mom so she can pay off credit card debt
  12. ToobieSnack

    ToobieSnack Guest

    i can dream can't i

    how about a down payment on a Fairchild 670...then i'd be welcome at almost every studio i wanted to go to. lol

    But seriously ...
    Digital performer all the way (i like the software)
    a vintage akg c-12
    some sweet RCA 44's
    rack of v-72's (8)
    pair of la2a's
    pair of fairchild 660's (cuz I can't afford the big dog on 15k)
    and a great pair of headphones and headphone distribution.

    on a budget of 15k
    i'd worry about room acoustics and monitoring at some other time down the road.
  13. jamiey

    jamiey Guest

    ...heh, I guess not
  14. fontane

    fontane Guest
  15. midiwhale

    midiwhale Guest

    I'd 110% buy native - unless I "knew" I "had" to work with other people with ProTools projects who were going to give me money and not a beer.

    IMHO you pay quite a premium for any "locked in" system and most of the time they aren't that good anyway :oops:

    I was going to say $4000 bucks on a solid state portastudio, a guitar, a beach deck chair with umbrella and the rest on hookers - but I guess that isn't helpful :p

    My point being I'd like gear which was (operationally/artistically) invisble and I just had to think about music - which is what I should be doing.
    Hence the guitar, beach and portastudio scenario.

    The beauty of any (native) modular system is you can pick and choose and have an assortment of "sound characters".
    So I'm not even going to list what I'd buy in particular. Some of it would even be cheap stuff!

    A UAD-1 would certainly be in there.

    Other than a solid quality core, I'd go for a RANGE of sonic textures.
    Not that I'd get much change out of 15K :shock:
  16. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Mar 8, 2004
    Tacoma, WA
    So True! 5-7 K on a native system?? I just recently built a native system for portable use - it includes the following:
    Asus system board
    P IV 3 gHz Extreme
    2 Gigs RAM
    80 Gig ATA HD
    200 Gig SATA HD
    Lynx AES 16
    Matrox Dual Head Video
    2 Samsung 17" LCDs
    Win XP Pro
    AND Sequoia V8

    All of this cost me just over $4K and $2650 was on software! Just imagine if you used Nuendo or Cubase - you could save a couple thousand on that!

    BTW-- this will handle well over 120 tracks at full resolution.

    The rest of the money - crack and hookers! (Just kidding - I'm married, I don't need the crack.)

    Then, for the rest of the money - decent converters (Minimum RME, possibly Mytek, Apogee, or Lucid) a few decent mics - some value mics including:
    SP C1
    AKG C451s
    Then the staples
    And of course pre's
    I like the Summit stuff and hell, may as well throw in a half a dozen GT Bricks.

    Good luck!

    Ps. If you need any help getting rid of it, you can donate to my studio - I'll call it a non-profit if it will help you out.

    J :cool:

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