I guess my ears aren't that great after all...

Discussion in 'Recording' started by Guitarfreak, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

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    I tried two different compressor settings on distorted guitar parts and couldn't tell the two of them apart audibly. Any slight differences I attributed to bias, (expecting to hear a difference because you know what you are selecting).

    For the first I used a ratio of 1.8/1 and set the threshold accordingly to achieve an average of -6dB compression.

    On the second I used a ratio of 4.2/1 and set the threshold accordingly to achieve an average of -6dB compression.

    Both used the same A/R/G settings.
    Attack: 15ms
    Release:130ms
    Gain: 4dB
    Knee: .7

    idk if specifics are important to you but I don't mind listing them anyway :D
     
  2. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

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    Not a big surprise here. A distorted guitar is pretty compressed already. If you had a sound source that was all true square waves, then the ratio wouldn't matter. If the attack and release were fast then 6Db of compression would be the same no matter what the ratio. Of course, your source isn't all square waves, but if it is pretty well compressed, the effect of additional compression will be pretty subtle. Try something with more dynamics if you want to hear more of the effects of compression.
     
  3. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

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    Loosen up on the settings too.

    You practice by shooting at big targets, then get down to finer details and smaller targets.
     
  4. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

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    What did you mean by loosen up the settings? Longer attack time?
     
  5. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

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    Loosen it up so it doesn't just give you 6dB of reduction, but 60dB :twisted:
    High ratios and longer releases are usually easier to pick up (IMO).
     
  6. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

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    lol, but then it would be unusable. I was trying to see the practical uses. I was expecting a more rounded tone with 1.8 and a more dynamic punchy tone with 4.2. I think for a pretty natural sounding track (not a huge dynamic range) 6dB is a good target, am I wrong? What would you use?
     
  7. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

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    I meant - you should start by listening to extremes, and get to know the characteristics that exhibit themselves - then reduce the settings and compression until you can recognise the characteristics with less compression applied.
     
  8. Guitarfreak

    Guitarfreak Well-Known Member

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    ahh, indeed. I should have also realized that a distorted guitar doesn't have much dynamic range to begin with. Which I think somebody mentioned earlier.
     

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