Jazz guitar sound mixing

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  1. Peetee

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    Hi! Please help me in the following: I have an Epiphone Broadway hollow jazz guitar, used with flat wound Tomastic strings, pluged into a Fender Concert full tube amp, and I use a little of the mechanik reverb into it. Have a big membran condenser microphone for the amp. I have a Boss GT8 effect pedal too. The problem is that when I am recording the guitar with the amps own mechanik or any kind of mono reverb, I can not mix the recorded sound to be that "stereo". No metter that I use stereo fx chanell on the Cubase, my main analog reverb effect dont let the stereo Cubase plugin to effect how I want. I prefer to use my mono effect, because it sounds grait, but I want my guitar to sounds more opened in space, not from one point. What can I do? What kind of stereo plugin Do I have to use or wath preset?
  2. JusSumguy

    JusSumguy Active Member

    Jan 3, 2009
    I'll take a gobo and put it edge on to the amp. Then place a mic on either side of the gobo.

    Experiment with turning them in (toward the gobo) and out.

    This should give you a fairly good quasi stereo effect.

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  3. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Oct 31, 2005
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Could you post an example of that? I'd like to hear it work.



    Can you get one more mic? What I would do just to keep the options open is:
    -close mic the amp with a dynamic mic like an sm57 or equivalent

    -put the condenser mic 4-6 feet away or more if you have the space. Make sure you check for phase problems with the close mic.

    -I would also use the GT8 if you could get an a/b/y, use it in y configuration and send one signal to amp, one signal to the GT8. Bring up a Roland JC 120 emulation and send that in stereo to your daw.

    So, that's a total of 4 inputs to 4 mono channels in your daw but at least that would give you the best options for choosing or mixing the tracks to get your open sound. I think the distant mic will give you the best results. As far as plugins are concerned, I would try JB omniverb at http://www.jeroenbreebaart.com/audio_vst.htm (scroll down it's on that page). That's the best free option I can think of other than: http://freeverb3.sourceforge.net/
  4. BDM

    BDM Active Member

    Oct 23, 2008
    Mali, Africa
    double the part and pan!
  5. hueseph

    hueseph Well-Known Member

    Oct 31, 2005
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    As it has been pointed out before, all that does is create a louder mono track. Doesn't matter how you pan it because both tracks are identical. stereo requires variation between the two channels. Retarding or nudging one track ahead may work but it can also cause phase problems.
  6. Greener

    Greener Guest

    I think BDM meant to double the guitars as in re-record them a second time, not just copy and paste.

    However, unless your tight this sounds bad, but then again if your not tight it still sounds bad.
  7. Jaxon13

    Jaxon13 Active Member

    Dec 23, 2008
    Madcity, WI
    If it's an improvised part, howsabout comping in one channel; doubling the melody line when you can?


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