search for "Dogs on acid" on google... "DOA" is a "Jungle/DrumandBass" site, on it there is a section called, "The Grid". You will find lots of downloads are available as well as links to more. I spent a few hours and got 5 gigs. Granted, not every loop was a winner, but I got what I needed, and for the most part, they sound just as good as the ones you buy on a cd, AND they are predominatly cut into usable loops already. Lots of old jazz drummer solo cuts.