Live PA

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by thecurejosh, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. thecurejosh

    thecurejosh Active Member

    Nov 11, 2012
    Fleet UK
    Hello guys,

    This isn't recording related but I use this forum for help some times and thought someone might be able to advise.

    If I get a pair of Active PA speakers or passive speaks with an amp is there ANY reason I wouldn't be able to use a Zoom R16 as a mixer for the purposes of a small live gig for about 150-200 people.

  2. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Apr 19, 2006
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    Zoom's description of the R16 is "Recorder:Interface:Controller". It's not a live sound mixer.
  3. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    Dec 18, 2008
    Western Pennsylvania, USA
    Latency that would be tolerable in a recording application would be completely unacceptable for a Live PA.

    If you're only in need of 2-3 inputs, you would be better served by buying an Active PA speaker that has more than one input and mixing capability on-board. If you need more than 3 inputs a small mixer designed for live purposes (either powered or unpowered) should be in your future plans.
  4. pcrecord

    pcrecord Quality recording seeker ! Distinguished Member

    Feb 21, 2013
    Quebec, Canada
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    If the unit could do live/realtime processing, maybe. I meen, you could have it plug to a computer and use the realtime processing of a DAW software, but realtime processing tend to add latency to the signal. If you put too many realtime effects, the time the computer receive the tracks, process them and send it back to the unit, will create a delay. I don't want to work with that ;)

    If you already have de zoom, try to plug a mic and see if you can add reverb and change the EQ in realtime, (without recording)
    If so, it works. But would it be a good solution ; NO! Unless you are a DJ. Than a stereo output from your computer might be all you need.

    What we expect of a live mixer is to rapidely acces all tools to mix the band, (gain, eq, effect sends monitors sends, master mix and may be some sub mix. You want to output the main mix signal and also many monitors signals for the musician to decide what they want to hear. Plus, going through menus to change the EQ is time comsuming and you don't want to do that live.

    So for the same price of the zoom (399$) check the Allen & Heath ZED-14 or the Soundcraft EFX8 (with buit-in effects)
  5. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2005
    Furthermore, how are you goung to set up an independent stage monitor mix? There doesn't appear to be an independent "pre-fader" aux mix output...
  6. bouldersound

    bouldersound Real guitars are for old people. Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2010
    Boulder, Colorado
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    Pick a mixer for the required inputs/outputs and features like eq and auxiliary sends, not for the size of the audience. In this case I think your Zoom comes up way short.

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