Live recording

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by Sork, Jan 13, 2006.

  1. Sork

    Sork Active Member

    Oct 26, 2004
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    I like to tape gigs with a minidiscplayer (direct out from the mixer), mostly for documentation. However, I don't like the way the compressed minidiscsound is. I've looked at the Alesis Masterlink, and it has what I want, 24bit uncompressed recording. But it altso has alot of options I don't need as I dump the recordings into wavelab for processing anyway, and is therefore more money than I want to spend on this. Could a 24bit Dat-recorder be a good option? I don't need any processing tools, only 24bit 44.1KhZ (or higher) recordingpossibilities.
  2. moonbaby

    moonbaby Mmmmmm Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2005
    R-DATs are getting rare, as are their tapes. I use a Masterlink, but only in the studio. It's taken Alesis 3 tries to get me one that ships to me intact without "hairline fractures in the PCB from shipping". Needless to say, no live gigs for that puppy. Have you checked out the Marantz CD recorders?
  3. mrufino1

    mrufino1 Active Member

    Apr 16, 2005
    What about one of the new flash recorders, liek the microtrack or something? They do 24 bit.
  4. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Member

    Sep 26, 2005
    You don't need 24-bit! The flash recorders basically use the same compression scheme as your MiniDisc, I- pod, et al.. It's all compressed. If your levels are decent along with Yamaichi technique MP3 and the other compression schemes should sound adequate. If you don't like that wavy underwater effect, then uncompressed is the only way to go and 16-bit would-be adequate. A decent off-the-shelf CD recorder like Sony that includes " super bitmapping" along with a limiter and equalization would be the ticket. I mean what do you really want 24-bit for? You want that for archiving. But you probably just want to pop in a CD to listen to yourself. Be practical.

    Practically yours
    Remy Ann David
  5. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Mar 8, 2004
    Tacoma, WA
    Hey Remy -

    Most of the Flash recorders don't use compression (or if they do, they are selectable this way). You can record uncompressed at 24 bit on just about all of them that I'm aware of.

    However, also bear in mind, you can now record on MiniDisc uncompressed as well (though, you have to get one of the new MD recorders capable of recording 1Gig to a MD). This is also uncompressed, though (and I may be wrong) it is 16 bit (which I don't see as a problem).

    Also, bear in mind that ATRAC 3 (Sony's compression algorithm) is far less invasive than MP3 compression or the schemes which are used by iTunes.

    My advice would be, for a cheap location 2 track recorder (in order of preference)
    1 - Small flash recorder (m-audio or the likes)
    2 - New HiRes MiniDisc
    3 - Good ole' fashion DAT

    For live recordings, you simply don't need 24 bit (unless you're recording in Meyerhoff Symphony Hall or the like).

    Just my $.02


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