Live sound replacement

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by ddrum4u, Nov 12, 2010.

  1. ddrum4u

    ddrum4u Guest

    I'm looking for insight as to types of equipment to use for drum sound replacement/enhancement using mics in live settings.
  2. Unregistered

    Unregistered Guest

    You need a 'midi kiti-kat' or something along those lines, basically it uses microphones or transducers to 'trigger' a 'gate' which in turn creates a midi note. The above mentioned unit I think could do 8 or 10 channels, so the full kit. One of the alesis drum modules also has this function and I think akia also made one. I have used all three in studios and had a drummer who used the alesis live all with great results, however if its just for studio use logic audio has a audio to score function which generates midi notes from audio, very clever!
  3. dvdhawk

    dvdhawk Well-Known Member

    Dec 18, 2008
    Western Pennsylvania, USA
    Your namesake 'ddrum' and others make triggers, but you can get it done with cheap $2 piezo transducers.
    Hopefully you're augmenting good sounding drums with good mics. Ideally if your front-of-house mixer has Direct Outs on the channels you can use those sends to feed a drum brain. That puts control of those sounds in the hands of your soundman.

    I always felt there would be too much latency converting audio to MIDI and back to audio for live use. I could be wrong about that, but since there are drum brains that have trigger inputs - that's what we used (15-20 years ago). We had the acoustic kit sounding good and were able to mix in some electronic samples from a Korg DRM-1 to enhance the acoustic kit or change the flavor. We just did kick and snare using cheap piezos from Radio Shack for triggers.

    ddrum used to make a concert quality drum-trigger brain. I've recorded with the Alesis before. We used a Korg live. The ultimate concert drum trigger rig back in those days was the Wendel Jr.

    The drummer broke a top head on his snare one night mid-song. He missed 2 or 3 beats before the soundman dialed up the snare and we finished the song with a 8" rip in the head. It took 15 seconds to throw a little duct tape and cardboard on the head between songs and we finished the set with the triggered snare. The audience probably never noticed the broken head.

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