m/s matrix

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  1. I-Quality

    I-Quality Guest

    well i heard it beeing used in mastering the other day and I tried it with a song I mastered...okay let's be frank i'm just doing it for fun, and I like it (whatever the result, it's still better than nothing heh)...

    so I wanted to see if you pros do it? I think I can recall some mastering mixer with that ability

    as I'm in a daw I heard the summing won't be good after the separation is that true? or is it just like the normal summing you do with the final mix to a stereo track? in that case I read for that forsome people there's a lot of difference and for others it's just non-sense......what about you?

    I find the m/s marticing very interesting as you are able to treat the sides a part from the center which can be usefull .... and that you are able to "expand"(i'm not so convinced about this term...) or reduce the stereo image...what I liked also is to be able to treat the mono signal alone so you won't be surprised when you click mono when you're done..
    but what I don't understand is that the bass almost disapears in the middle if you push the sides up....well it's only the sensation cause it's still there...

    well i liked the idea of it and it would be great if some would share their thoughts about it 'cause I haven't really found much info...
  2. Massive Mastering

    Massive Mastering Well-Known Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Chicago area, IL, USA
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    I process M/S quite a bit... Great if a wide mix with well-centered but slightly quiet vocals comes in... Lot's of situations where it comes in handy...
  3. Michael Fossenkemper

    Michael Fossenkemper Distinguished past mastering moderator Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2002
    NYC New York
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    It all depends on what you are using and how you are using it. If you go too radical with phasey gear, you can create some problems. if the low end isn't real centered then you will have the disappearing act you mentioned. In MS, the relationship between the M and the S give's you a nice image or a bad image. If you keep an eye on it and use it wisely, then it can be very useful, if you don't then it can cause some problems.
  4. Ammitsboel

    Ammitsboel Member

    Aug 12, 2003
    No, the center will disapear.
  5. I-Quality

    I-Quality Guest

    thanks for the advices :)
    sound is really something incredible

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