Mackie Big Knob monitor manager

Discussion in 'Monitoring' started by Costy, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. Costy

    Costy Guest

    Hi All,
    Does anyone has any experience with Mackie Big Knob monitor
    management device ? Any opinion how good/bad it is ?
  2. Link555

    Link555 Well-Known Member

    Mar 31, 2007
    North Vancouver
    I test drove, before I bought my Avocet. Its not bad, although not what I was looking for. It does, IMO, colour the sound it passes. There is a slight 2-5k boost if I remember correctly. Nothing major, maybe only .5db or so. But it was enough for me pass on it. However I know a few of people quite happy with it.

    The other one to check out in that price range is the presonus Central control. I have not tried it but, but again know a few happy users.

    Anyway thats just my 2 cents I hope this helps.
  3. Costy

    Costy Guest

    Thanks, Link. You are right, I would not like .5 db boost either.
    I know the presonus Central control, it is passive and quite accurate.
    I was just curious if Mackie managed to make table top control of good
  4. Link555

    Link555 Well-Known Member

    Mar 31, 2007
    North Vancouver
    I would say typically mackie quality, nothing to drool over, but for the price point not to shabby.

    Anyway if your budget is slightly larger check out dangerous music:

    or the Cranesong Avocet:

    Which I am very much in love with!
  5. Costy

    Costy Guest

    I'm sure you enjoy the Avocet, no doubt. For me the Avocet
    would be an overshot. In Dangerous Music ST I don't like idea
    of using the snakes in this case. So, I think I'll check out the
    Presonus Central, if I don't like haw it sounds I can always send
    it back. Thanks for the info.
  6. Markd102

    Markd102 Well-Known Member

    Apr 24, 2001
    I have the Big Knob and I'm very happy with it. Basically, the Central Station is about twice the price of the Big Knob when you include the remote, and I just couldn't justify the extra money.

    But I must say I went from the Samson C-control to the Big Knob, and that is a massive step up in quality. The color that the Samson imparts on the sound is obscene. The Big Knob is totally transparent in comparison.
  7. Boswell

    Boswell Moderator Distinguished Member

    Apr 19, 2006
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    If you want a passive level control for active monitors, try the SM Pro Audio M-Patch2.
  8. Costy

    Costy Guest

    Thanks for additional info, guys. Appreciate it.
  9. moinho

    moinho Active Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    München, Bayern
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    I have to admit that I'm extremely disappointed with the MPatch - the biggest problem being a level mismatch between both channels, which is even frequency-dependant.

    So I'm also on the lookout for some monitor controller - does anyone know the Presonus Monitor Station, btw?

  10. likea45

    likea45 Guest

    I recently picked up a big knob.

    I was using a pro-co switcher for a/b-ing monitors and running headphones through my console.

    I got a new bass management system and decided to try a monitoring system that handled everything.

    Don't let anyone fool you - using ANYTHING to monitor with that has a volume knob and a transformer inside it will color the sound somewhat.

    I tested the presonus first and didn't like the control features, the price was higher and the foot print not as nice to work with.

    Go listen to the big knob, it's very small and logically laid out and a good bang for the buck.

    Or you could spend a few grand and go with a Dangerous Audio system.
  11. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Dec 11, 2007
    Scotland, UK
    "I recently picked up a big knob."
    RemyRAD could have a field day with that statement...

    To be honest, I would do without a control surface but that's me. So long as I have some means of turning the speakers down...but I neither have a studio, or any form of budget allowed.
  12. likea45

    likea45 Guest

    nice! didnt even read it....
  13. Codemonkey

    Codemonkey Well-Known Member

    Dec 11, 2007
    Scotland, UK
    The whole "big knob" thing just seems to be surrounded by immature (but still funny) comments about whatever.

    "the big knob, it's very small"
    Hmm. Decisive.
  14. bent

    bent No Bad Vibes! Well-Known Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    Cocoa, FL
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  15. Cucco

    Cucco Distinguished Member

    Mar 8, 2004
    Tacoma, WA
    Do you mean the central station or their new desktop version?

    I've found absolutely no gripes whatsoever with the central station. In fact, the DA conversion on it is friggin awesome sounding.

    Also, their service has been absolutely excelleng. I had a bad pot in the remote after about 4 months - sent it off and had it replaced quite promptly.

  16. sheet

    sheet Well-Known Member

    May 28, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
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    Considering the ear does not hear with that kind of resolution, that the Mackie IS flat, this is likely attributed to something else.

    BTW, the Avocet's quality is not much to speak of. One came to the studio I used to work for not long ago. It malfunctioned out of the box. It took an act of God to get the issue resolved. That was done by returning the unit.

    Judging by the sheer numbers of units made and sold vs the Avolcet, I would say Mackie's reliability and build quality are much better on average.

    That said, the Mackie and the Presonus do something to the sound, and I don't like it. I also had a Presonus burn up. Service was quick on that one.
  17. TVPostSound

    TVPostSound Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    I know this is way off the budget thing, but I bought the
    SPL SMC2489, and have never looked back.
    Granted the 2489 is for 5.1 with no talkback or cue, the SPL SMC 2381 might fit the bill:
  18. Imago

    Imago Guest

    Big nob....big no

    Yeah the big nob difinitely adds colour to the signal because it's an active signal path. You need to look into a completely clean passive signal path to get a pure signal. The Dangerous music unit is extremely nice. I upgraded to it from a central station that I ugraded to from a big nob, and I'm completly happy with it. Also check out The Dangerous music 2-Bus analog summing mixer... absolutely amazing results for the money spent.
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