mic recomendation for ms technique

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by sammyg, Jan 16, 2005.

  1. sammyg

    sammyg Active Member

    Dec 12, 2003
    Hi all,

    anyone got any advice on what mic's to go for when wanting to achieve a good ms stereo sound. Im aware that you need a figure 8 and cardiod, maybe someone has used 2 particular mic's that just work damn well together!


  2. ghellquist

    ghellquist Member

    May 25, 2004
    the experts on the area are in the Acoustics forum a bit down. I think there has been a bit of discussion on that there.

    Generally, for acoustic music you would go with as similar pair of small diameter condensors as possible. The MKH series from Sennheiser is one example, Schoeps also has some that are mentioned a lot.

    But there is no rule without exceptions, just about any figure 8 mic together with just about any cardoid may be the right thing in a given situation. On a recording lately I used what I could get my hands on, a Neumann KM184 (SDC) as the cardoid and an AKG 414 (LDC) as the 8. This is not a perfect match, and it did create a few artifacts, but large parts of the recording sounds good.

    Gunnar Hellquist
  3. Hack

    Hack Active Member

    Mar 20, 2001
    Little Rock, AR
    I like 414s
  4. sammyg

    sammyg Active Member

    Dec 12, 2003
    thanks guys, I'll also check out the acoustic forum.

  5. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Gunnar meant the Acoustic Music Forum, not the acoustics forum. Also, i'd like to point out that the center mic doesn't necessarily have to be a cardioid.
  6. FifthCircle

    FifthCircle Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Thank you for mentioning that David- M-S is strictly a sum and difference matrix array of microphones. It is usually done with a cardiod in the center, but I have done it with just about every conceivable pattern in the center depending on the situation.

    Sometimes an omni works well, other times a figure 8 or a hypercardiod.

    There are already a few discussions at the Acoustic music forum that deal with this as has been said...

    For my M-S micing, I like using stereo microphones. It most often an AKG 426 stereo mic, but I also use SM-69 tube mics, AKG C-34's, Schoeps CMT301's and other similar mics. The great thing about all of these mics is that you can change the patterns on them. I'll sit in the booth with my pattern box (assuming the cable reaches) and switch patterns to "dial in" the sound I'm looking for.

  7. Davedog

    Davedog Distinguished Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    As it should be......

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