MIDI Patch Bays better avoided ?

Discussion in 'Patchbays' started by clintrubber, Oct 13, 2003.

  1. clintrubber

    clintrubber Guest

    Thinking of adding a MIDI Patch bay to my setup.
    Curious to hear if this would be better avoided when not strictly needed. This because of the added delays (I thought at least a few milliseconds were unavoidable).

    Are patchbays simply a tradeoff between convenience & tightness of timing ?

    And much difference w.r.t. delays between the various models ?

    Roland A-880
    Akai ME30P-II
    Akai ME30P


  2. Nate Tschetter

    Nate Tschetter Active Member

    Feb 28, 2001

    I've had different patch bay setups over the years. Sycologic, JL Cooper, Opcode, etc. Never noticed anything too terrible with the timing.

    What is your application? A lot of MIDI interfaces offer patching capability.
  3. clintrubber

    clintrubber Guest

    Thanks for the response.

    Application is to have more possibilities
    with the four INs & four OUTs that my present
    MIDI-interface of my PC has. Don't have that much
    repatching to do, but I can't connect all at once now, especially with a few samplers I'd like to give more MIDI-channels (multitimbr.)

    And I must admit that Akai ME30P-II I saw seemed for a OK-price.

    So while it'd definitely be convenient, it isn't
    absolutely impossible to do things without. But I don't want to get bitten by additional delays.

    Since I'm new to these kind of patchbays I was wondering if certain models are regarded as 'better' compared to others. I guess the Roland A-880 is the mother of all MIDI patchbays,
    but I assume that's because of it's higher number of inputs and ease of use (?)


  4. gdoubleyou

    gdoubleyou Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2003
    Kirkland WA
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    Actually tightens timing, all devices receives midi data at the same time as opposed to the delay that occurs when daisy chaining.

    Each device in the chain adds delay,some delays are perceivable some are not.

  5. clintrubber

    clintrubber Guest

    Hadn't looked at it this way, thanks.

    What I was also concerned of was that MIDI & audio from my DAW get a delay offset - but this can of course be compensated for.

    Anyone happens to be using those old Akai MIDI patch bays ? (ME30P-II etc)


  6. Nate Tschetter

    Nate Tschetter Active Member

    Feb 28, 2001

    I haven't seen one in eons. G-dub is right about the timing though. Check into a multi-port MIDI interface before you get a patchbay. They're not that much more expensive and its one less thing to dick with when things go awry.
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