Mixer setting question

Discussion in 'Consoles / Control Surfaces' started by Axeman32, Jun 16, 2003.

  1. Axeman32

    Axeman32 Guest

    What does it mean when an EQ setting is written +6.0dB at 256Hz with 0.7Q Peak response?
  2. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Feb 10, 2001
    You typically have 3 controls available to a parametric EQ. Gain, Freq and Bandwidth or Q

    The way bandwidth is calculated is by measuring the frequencies that are 3db down from the center freq (the one you selected with your freq knob.

    An example would be if you selected 1Khz with (bell curve, determined by your bandwidth knob) that measured 3db down at say 900HZ and 1.1Khz the actual bandwidth would be 200HZ.

    Now take that bandwidth of 200Hz and divide that into your center freq. this would give you the Q of 5 (in other words, Q is simply a ratio of the center frequency to bandwidth)

    Only thing you need to remember is higher the Q number the sharper/narrower the bellcurve. where as the higher the number on a bandwidth control the wider the curve.

    Oh the +6 would simply represent the amount of gain.

    I hope your as confused as I am :)
  3. Axeman32

    Axeman32 Guest

    I understand the controls well enough. What is the Peak Response portion mean?
  4. themidiroom

    themidiroom Active Member

    Apr 20, 2002
    St Louis
    I'm taking a wild guess, but could that peak response be a reference to a peak notch type for the EQ as opposed to a low or high shelf type.
  5. Axeman32

    Axeman32 Guest

    I'm not sure. There is no Q to a shelf setting. The peak was written for few of the Q related parameters. Some with Q settings had it and others did not.
  6. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Feb 10, 2001
    the "peak response" is probably similar to "HiQ" as on the Neve V series consoles. However the HiQ was only for the high and low freq bands (no Q control) I believe it changed the preset Q from .71 to 2.0....

    perhaps that "peak response" should be associated with a low or hi freq eq setting....wouldnt make sense with the mid bands : assuming they already have a variable Q/bandwidth

    On the VR the low and high freq default with a preset bellcurve (.71) you can switch in the HiQ (2.0) OR a shelving function.
  7. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Well-Known Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    This just means; boost 6dB @ 256 Cycles,0.7 Q (quality, how narrow or wide the eq notch is).. in peak/dip mode vs. shelfing. Because you're boosting it is expressed as peak, if you were cutting it would be dip response..
  8. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Feb 10, 2001
    doesnt his +6 already tell you its a boost...if it was going to be a dip it would be -6.....just doesnt make sense to quantify it with "peak response"

    if theres a Q value then more than likely thats a mid band which wouldnt even have a shelf setting....or maybe im wacked in the head :D
  9. anonymous

    anonymous Guests

    Feb 10, 2001
    oh wait I bet thats a low freq setting....set to a bell curve and the board probably says the Q is a .7 with the "peak" function selected
  10. realdynamix

    realdynamix Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    :) Hi! It sounded like recording notes to me, if I were to translate a record, I would set a peak response of 6db at that frequency and Q and look for that peak in my metering adjusting my gear accordingly. A 6db general setting may be too much.

  11. vinniesrs

    vinniesrs Active Member

    May 12, 2003
    asI understand it, shelving eq's do not have Q's. They cause frequencies above(high shelf) or below(low shelf) the set frequency to roll off logrithmically.(i think thats the right word.)
    What I mean is, that in a shelving type eq, a 5db boost at one freq, could mean a 6,8,10, whatever db boost down the curve. Q is a term that refers to the bandwidth affected by an eq. In the case of a graphic or parametric the freq you choose is the center. Shelving eq's just indicate the start poin of the curve. Peak response may be a way of expressing what the actual slope of the eq will be with a given q. I can see this as usefull to help you better visualize the sound you are affecting without having to do the math.
  12. Ethan Winer

    Ethan Winer Active Member

    Mar 19, 2001
    New Milford, CT USA
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    > asI understand it, shelving eq's do not have Q's. <

    Yes, they certainly can have a Q setting. If you have an EQ plug-in that offers Q in shelving mode and also shows you the response, play with the Q and you'll see what it does. As you raise the Q, a peak forms at the cutoff frequency. This is the basis for analog synth filters. For example, the original MiniMoog has a 24 dB. per octave low-cut filter. As you increase the Resonance, the Q increases at the cutoff frequency.

  13. Axeman32

    Axeman32 Guest

    Well it is nice to see that I'm not the only one that is confused here. Here's a definition I got from the listed website.

    Peak Response - 1) A term with the same meaning as Peak 2) Raising or lowering of the amplitude of signals at the center frequency more than signals at any other frequency.

    Still not too clear

    Detroit Recording Institute - Glossary
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