mixing-console for vintage recording

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by tryne, Dec 6, 2003.

  1. tryne

    tryne Guest

    I am in the proces of building a small studio for recording accustic -folk -bluegrasstype -music. And I am using mics like u67s and akg c 12 vr.
    I record to a 8 track harddisc with the mics going through universal audio tubepreams and v72 and v76.(no mixer in the chain)
    At the moment I have a very good overall sound on most of the recordings. However when it comes to the proces of mixing the material I`m not getting the the true value of these great mics/pres to the final stage. I am using a small Mackie 1604
    to mix the output from the harddiscrecorder.
    I never use the eq on the mixer becouse I feel that these buttons do tilt the sound.

    So here is the situation:
    1. I need a mixer with no eq.
    2. Only pan and fader and insert for pompresser.
    3. At least 8 channels.

    Can anybody out there give me advice on what to get to improve my sound?.
    Leif Thomsen-Heather Studio
  2. Ethan Winer

    Ethan Winer Active Member

    Mar 19, 2001
    New Milford, CT USA
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    You'll do better if you post this in one of the other RO forums that discuss gear. This forum focuses on studio acoustics.

  3. another great site, that has a extensive photo gallery of consoles as well as a very informative message board is http://www.recordingconsoles.net
  4. Gil Parente

    Gil Parente Guest

    call me crasy...
    but if you already have these excellent mic pres and mics and is getting great sounds recorded on the hard disc recorder, I would just buy a protools rig with some good converters and mix it in there. maybe using a control surface...
    take care..

  5. tryne

    tryne Guest

    Thank you ever so for the the answers . Let me tell you that I am not very experienced in communicating on the web- that´s the reason for the whrong placing for my toppic.
    Gil , I can se that the sure future for recording nowadays are digital gear like protools. And it does make a lot of sense to keep the mixing process in the a system like protooles.
    However I do read about people disliking digital
    mixers. Therefore I kind of like the idea to use as many analog units in the chain of recordig as possiple. At fist I was thinking of manleys 12 chanel console with some tubes involved.
    The sound I`m going for is the classic 50´s- 60`s like Brenda Lee-Nat King Cole and so on.
    So my Idea is to get stuff that represent the type gea they used back then.
  6. Mundox

    Mundox Guest

    Search for a mixer called Dangerous 2-bus.Supposed to be a really good line mixer specially designed for DAW. Also ask guys at Techtalk in this forum. Somebody might even make one for you!
  7. tripnek

    tripnek Active Member

    Jun 9, 2003
    I would also suggest a computer for mixing, but if you want to go analog you will have to spend a good amount of money to equal the quality you can get from a good DAW. I'd suggest a Trident, Amek, or even a Neve depending on how much you want to spend. Some also have automation which is a big plus.

  8. tryne

    tryne Guest

    thanks for your ideas- I´ll check it out.
    Does any body use the folling units:

    1 Trident s100
    2 Oram octafade
    3 Manley 16 x 2mic

    If you do -please give me hint on the ups and downs.
  9. Davedog

    Davedog Well-Known Member

    Dec 10, 2001
    Pacific NW
    Not a 'user' of any of the above....but, how can you possibly go wrong with anything 'Manley'....besides it must get really cold in Denmark and those things will heat a small house.Check in at the EveAnna site here on R.O. for any real questions you might have concerning their exquisite products.
  10. AudioGaff

    AudioGaff Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    Silicon Valley
    The Oram and Trident you mention are not even close to what the Manley is for sound or quality and should not even be spoken of in the same breath. Of course your going to have to pay for that kind of sound and quality...
  11. I would stay away from big consoles like Neve and API unless you are willing to shoulder the upkeep. D2B or the like sounds perfect for you. You could even run through some of your preamps on the way back. I like your setup. David
  12. slicraider

    slicraider Guest

    Dave Dog,

    Wow what a glowing endorsement of Manley. I have to say though that I am always underwelmed by their products. I never get that round warm feeling from them they sound warm but grainy to my ear. I would rather use Neve or Pultec for EQ. A 33609 would be my choice for compression over Manley and I hated the stereo EQ on the mix bus.

    That's what makes horse racing though.

  13. Duardo

    Duardo Guest

    What kind of hard disk recorder are you recording to?

  14. tryne

    tryne Guest

    I am recording on a Fostex d-108.

    Of all the advice from you folks out there I am most exited to hear about the Dangerous linemixer.
    It looks simple in design -no nonsence-buildup.
    And the price is ok for a very good unit.However I will love to hear from somebody who use one.
    ...How is the sound on it ?
    Would be nice to know before I order one.
  15. Roly

    Roly Guest

    Doesn't Speck make a good no nonsence line mixer?
    cheers Roly
  16. Paladyne

    Paladyne Guest

    Neve pres, SSL console.(&break out the Studer 800markIII, or just a 820 if your are lazy)
  17. coysoundnyc

    coysoundnyc Guest

    dude, I hope I am not doing anything wrong I do not work for them but vintageking.com has something realllly cool and rare in their used gear list called Raindirk 12x2 about 8Gs and you are all set for mixing and tracking with a very unique yet musical board.
    cheers :cool:
  18. What I want is a 16x2 line mixer WITH EQ on each channel, 5 stereo channels and 6 mono channels, with 2 aux sends. There must be balanced inserts on each channel. David
  19. Babyhead

    Babyhead Guest

    The guy above me wants a Daking Console. So do I.

  20. Recording Engineer

    Recording Engineer Active Member

    Mar 4, 2001
    Have DaviSound design and build you a small custom console with EXACTLY what you requirement, as you listed here!


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