My budget $4500.00

Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by RobA, Feb 6, 2005.

  1. RobA

    RobA Active Member

    Feb 6, 2005
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    I am pretty much a newbie to home recording. Recently I put up my first web site which led to an interest to high quality recording. So...after recording several tracks at a friends home studio the first piece of gear I got "sold" on was a Manley Dual Mono Mic Pre...

    My question is....what do y'all think of my first home studio equipment list, any suggestions....

    Manley Dual Mono Mic Pre
    2 Rode NTK
    RME Fireface 800
    Cubase SX-3

    I spent hours and hours researching options; of course that is quite different than having the experience of using the equipment over a period of time, etc.

    I am interested in recording (more or less) acoustic music. My primary instruments are dobro, Weissenborn guitar and acoustic guitar.

    My computer has

    1.8 gig P4 chip
    1 gig RAM
    Dell 8200

    I demoed the NTK against the K2 - and I did not hear any appreciable difference. They both sounded great, just main difference in options in K2 patterns....
  2. RobA

    RobA Active Member

    Feb 6, 2005
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    One of my questions is....

    is it better to have a matched pair of mics (in my case 2 NTK's) there perhaps an even better choice in the $500 and under category that I am overlooking.

    A friend of mine recently recorded a c.d. and used AKG C414 on his Weissenborn guitar and it sounded amazing....but a bit out of my price range for having a matched pair of mics worthwhile. And/or can I find a better value than having 2 NTK's to record acoustic music?
  3. WRX07

    WRX07 Guest

    For the price, SM81's are good...using an AKG C3000 and a AKG C1000 together works well, too. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful
  4. sdelsolray

    sdelsolray Active Member

    Jul 5, 2003
    Portland, OR
    What's your monitoring chain going to be? That's an important part of the puzzle.
  5. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Distinguished Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    What you have chosen is very good ... sounds like you know what you want. The Rodes are fine but there are better as you know .. Studio Projects has the C4's which come as a matched pair for under $500 street. But I wouldn't say one or the other is "better".

    I am not meaning to step on anyones toes here but I do not recommend the AKG C1000s in any situation ... I have used these mics a lot and I have gotton good results with them but these are really cheap fixed charge electrit mics and there is a lot of stuff out there for just a bit more that is much better.
  6. Bhennies

    Bhennies Guest

    hi there. might want to check out the shure ksm44 since you're in that price range. I had an opportunity to hear them in action somewhat recently and I think they are pretty great for the $$$. Plus multiple patterns. I owned a c414 at one point, and I would say the KSM44 is a contender quality-wise with that mic for sure (for my application, that is, YMMV).

    I also have the c4's that Kurt recommended- they're great as well. If you don't have any mics yet...I would suggest going with large diaphragm condensers (like the ksm44 or ntk)...the c4's are cheap and can be picked up down the road. LDC's will be pretty versatile (can be used on vocal duty which I wouldn't recommend the c4's for).
  7. Bhennies

    Bhennies Guest

    ...oh, I forgot to ask...isn't the fireface Firewire 800? If your Dell is a 1.8 ghz, I'm assuming it's not brand new, so you may have to budget in a little $$$ for a PCI FW800 card. If I'm wrong about the fireface or your dell, disregard this :).
  8. RobA

    RobA Active Member

    Feb 6, 2005
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    My Budget

    Thanks for responding. I really appreciate it.

    I already own a KSM 32 which will be my 3rd recording mic. BTW, I also own an AKG CE535 and a C1000, but I was looking at those mics as more appropriate for live sound, not recording.

    Thanks for the suggestions-I will definitely check out the KSM 44 and the C4's

    I contacted RME and they gave me two suggestions for Firewire cards - I just ordered one 2 days ago. I have read some of the stories about systems compatibility so I thought it would be best to ask them for their recommendations.

    As far as monitoring system goes, for the time being I am going to rely on my computer speakers, definitely not the best, I know, but they are really not that bad - Altec 5.1 - and I will make a real investment on something good a little further down the road.

    I am praying, hoping that this rig will deliver the sound qaulity I am hoping for.

    Thanks again,

    Rob A
  9. ianb79

    ianb79 Guest

    hey dude,
    go with the ntks man...i own 2 and they sound great - overheads and room-micing drums + vox...acoustic...strings...b3...these mics will handle anything and they sound really nice - very quiet - very warm and thick - i know the uncertainty of buying stuff you have only auditioned in stores but i have been using these mics for 2 years now and i own a 414 - a classic mic also but the ntk is fatter! (i couldn't afford matched 414s but i'm stoked with the ntks!)
    have fun bro!
  10. theamoebason

    theamoebason Guest

    id check out the Rode K2's rather than the NTKs as they are very simular mics, the K2's only slightly more expensive, but you will have far more vesatility with them as you can alter the polar pattens on them

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