Need Audio Interface for Peavey PV8

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  1. Velmurugan

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    I have PV8 mixer.. its not with built-in usb.. so if i want to connect the mixer with cubase in laptop, first i need to connect with any audio interface.. Now i think to buy behringer UCA202 or UCA222.. but somebody says that both behringer UCA202 and UCA222 are usb 1.1 version.. its not usb 2.0.. due to less transfer speed of usb you will face some problem when you use with your daw.. so please help me to get good audio interface for PV8 mixer.. i have Yamaha MOXF 8.. i connect it directly to laptop through usb cable.. so i just need an audio interface for the only purpose to connect mixer and laptop.. thank you..
     
  2. pcrecord

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    Hi and welcome to RO Velmurugan!

    For the sake of connectivity alone, you can buy anything with the right I/O count...
    If we think about audio quality, having a cheap mixer send signals to a cheap interface and to the computer seems like a desastrous recipe.

    It would sound a lot cleaner if you would get rid of the mixer and buy a interface with the Ins and outs you need. Like a focusrite 6i6 or a Presonus.
    The preamps and converters would be much better and those interfaces have realtime mixer (controled via the computer)

    But it may not work with what you want to do.
    To get better help, you should explain in details what you want to achieve. Poscasts, gamming and recording a band ain't calling for the same tools ;)
     
  3. Velmurugan

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    Thanks for your reply..
    i am a carnatic musician.. i can play keyboard, mridhangam and tabla(indian percussion instrument).. i have Yamaha MOXF8 and using Cubase AI 8.. i recorded some melody tracks in cubase by using moxf8 synthesizer.. i need to add mridhangam or tabla track with that melodies.. i watched a video in youtube.. he connect the mixer and computer without audio interface.. he used both microphone and headphone port in his computer.. but i can't able to connect my mixer to laptop without an audio interface.. my laptop has single port for both headphone and microphone.. that's why i asked help to connect my mixer to laptop through audio interface.. so what should i do? could you tell me your opinion about this? thanks again.. have a great day..
     
  4. DonnyThompson

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    How many instruments/vocals do you currently record at one time?
    How many instruments would you eventually like to record at one time?

    What Marco is saying, is that you might not even need the mixer.

    There are many different multiple channel mic preamps ( 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, ) that also have USB connectivity ( 2.0, 3.0) built right in, as well as a headphone jack ( sometimes two headphone jacks) with a volume control for the headphones...

    So you might be able to just remove the mixer from the recording chain entirely.

    edit/added: I just took a look at the mixer you have. In my opinion, you'd be better off to get a multi-channel mic preamp/digital i-o, and get rid of the PV8.
    Everything you currently use on that mixer is available on reasonably priced "all in one" preamps, plus USB connectivity to your computer.

    Here's one as an example... the Focusrite 6i6.
    The 6i6 has two discreet mic/instrument inputs, 48v phantom power for condenser mics, 2 headphone jacks with independent volume control for each one, midi in/out if you want to use external midi controllers, 2 line inputs and 4 line outputs ( 1/4"), and is able to record at up to 192k at 24 bit. It also has a coaxial digital in and out ( SPDIF).
    Several pieces of software are bundled in for mixing ( plug ins like compressors, EQ's, etc.).
    The mixer/routing for this model is software based, and is included.
    Focusrite has a long and stellar history for making very nice equipment. They are highly respected in the audio community.

    You can check more out by clicking on this link:

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Scarlet6i6G2
     
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    That's all great until quality matters... The mic in of a sound card is a preamplified input. if you send a line level to it, it will sound very bad..
    What do you want to do with the recording ? Album, blogging, demo, compose ?
    How serious are you about recording and audio quality ?

    Those tablas are not very loud instruments
    In my studio, I would probably use 2 mics in Blumlein configuration with my cleanest preamps and going to an interface with good converters (2x 1200$ mics and 1k dual channel preamp and 3k interface) But that's just me, I'm aiming for professionnal recording as a charging service.

    If I was you, my minimum would be to sell the mixer and get a proper audio interface.
    You must state what level of quality you are looking for and to what extend you are willing to invest to achieve your goal.
    If you are to record musics for a bollywood movie, that mixer ain't gonna be good enough.. ;)
     
  6. Velmurugan

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    Thanks a lot..
     
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    You have to be careful about your method.

    Most DAWs running on a PC cannot take audio in from more than one source type at a time, so if your KB is sending audio to the DAW via a USB interface, you cannot also be simultaneously recording from an audio interface. It may be that this is not a problem, as you imply that you record the KB tracks first, and then overdub by playing the KB track while recording the other instrument sounds. If this is always the case, you could put up with having to switch audio sources and not worry about using another USB device that is not the KB.

    The other point that my colleagues have made is that of audio quality. Recording and replaying via the PC's built-in soundcard results in very low quality, and you can do very much better by using an external audio interface.

    With those points in mind, I would look at getting a USB audio interface such as the Focusrite Scarlett 6i6, and use its line inputs to take the audio output (headphone output) of the keyboard. You would need a TRS - 2xTS insert cable for this job. If the headphone output socket of the KB is 1/8", you would need something like this one. Your microphone(s) would then plug into the front panel inputs of the interface, and you could record KB and mics either at the same time or separately without lead switching.

    What microphones are you using for the audio recording?
     
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    It's a very good point. Recording 2 audios sources via 2 usb units at the same time is rarely possible.

    But many usb port on budget keyboards only transport midi data.
    If I don't have enough audio inputs, I would record the keyboard midi data instead of the audio.
    Then I can playback the midi data to the keyboard and record the audio at a later time.
     
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  9. Velmurugan

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    Thank you for your reply..
    I am using shure microphones..
     
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    Which ones ??
     
  11. Velmurugan

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    Thanks for your reply..
    I just want to record and save my composing.. If i record in DAW i can able to edit in future.. so i fulfilled my thoughts by using synthesizer.. but many confusions in adding indian percussion track.. i tried to accomplish with the equipments which i have.. but can't.. i need to upgrade..
     
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    Shure SV200
     
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    OK, I understand, you bought very cheap gear and just want to record reminders of your compositions.
    So it seems quality is not important to you and that's fine.
    It makes it easier to propose a solution according to your needs and not ours ;)

    So that mixer's signal needs to be recorded in the computer.
    If you are doing one instrument at the time. A simple 2 channel interface can do the job.
    Buy the least expensive 2 channels interface from presonus or the Focusrite and you will be good.
    You will be able to use a monitor send and the efx send to ouput signals from your mixer to the interface. (be carefull to turn the sends only on the instrument you are recording and not the signal coming back from the computer (if so you can damage your ears and monitors with feedback )

    When you get the interface. Try to record directly in it without the mixer.. It might sound better ;)
     
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    the cool thing about those little Behringer thingies is they interface with rca jacks which is a perfect fit for the tape in/ outs on small mixers like the PV8. they are very inexpensive and they don't need power. plug in the USB connector and go. no drivers bullsh*t or updating garbage. they just work. doing simple one track at a time recordings i doubt that speed of the USB1.1 interfacing (latency) will be an issue.

    i have one here that i acquired somewhere (not sure where but i know i didn't buy it) and it works just fine with Ardour, Audacity and Mixbuss. it's not my main interface, i rarely even know where i've stashed it (it's somewhere in the pile) but it's real ok.

    i think you guys need to take a second look at the PV8 and it's specs. it's really not that bad for a cheapo piece and it has some good routing and monitoring facilities. it's not an SPL or of that ilk but for a home recording rig it's fine.

    i don't believe the quality of the PV will be that much worse than that of any the previously mentioned alternatives like the Pre Sonus (ichh!) or the Focusrite, or to put it another way the alternatives mentioned will sound any better than the Behringer and the PV8. in a real world application put side by side i doubt anyone could tell the difference especially with a $35 microphone. no sense fixing what ain't broken. save your money and have fun. what you have will be fine.
     
  15. Velmurugan

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    one more question.. please reply me..
    May i buy Behringer UCA202 for my purpose? or Not?
    Thank you.. i will buy an interface later..
     
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    Thank you..
     
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    Yes you can !
     
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