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Discussion in 'Mixing & Song Critique' started by mcguin, Aug 1, 2002.

  1. mcguin

    mcguin Guest

    hi all
    i am moving up from an all in one box (roland 2480 - great machine, just ready to move up in the studio) to a more pro "hard" set up - (probably) Mackie d8b, Radar 24project, and ???some type of pc (not mac) editing set-up.
    I have not used any pc recording gear before, and just want to do editing now - i am looking for input on system requirements and what software to use - 24 track EDITING only, relatively easy learning curve. I will keep the 2480 for live gigs, so i will probaby have to output from that as wav files.
    Any input greatly appreciated.
  2. sdevino

    sdevino Active Member

    Mar 31, 2002
    Pro Tools LE is the best multitrack editor with the shortest learning curve there is IMO.

    You can get it for PC or Mac for $450 with an MBOX.

    Pro Tools Free is OK for 24 tracks of just editing as well. And runs on PC or Mac. If you do not need to do track transfers Free could be the way to go.
  3. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Well-Known Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    (IMO) You should just go into a DAW system. Stand alone stuff becomes a doorstop in just a few years or even months. The price of a computer / interface / software system has finally gotten to the point that it is more affordable, sounds ok, and works well. Use it a couple of years and then get a new and better one. It's where its going and you can't fight it. I hate it but presently it seems sonic fidelity isn't as much of a factor any more among the considerations when purchasing recording systems. If it was all the manufacture's would still be producing analog recorders and mixers and people would still be buying them. Your time and hard earned cash is much better spent on a DAW computer set up. Once you get your feet wet you won't be sorry. Good Luck, Fats
  4. I suggest a Mac with Pro Tools. It is the most stable and consistant platform out there IMO. You can start with the entry level stuff, like mentioned earlier and work your way up to the high powered 192k stuff with out a learning curve. No other option offers this flexibility.

    Macs are very easy to learn and understand. They are more stable becuase the hardware/software developers have less variables to take into consideration (ei. different mother boards, OS types, etc.). This makes for designing a predictable solution.


  5. Kurt Foster

    Kurt Foster Well-Known Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    77 Sunset Lane.
    Well, I was speaking about a windows PC. They are half the price and are getting fast enough to do even what a Mac is capable of. It just takes a little more configuring to make it happen. A Dual 1800 AMD with 1 gig of memory and 2 - 80 gig drives, one of them swapable, just cost me around $1600. To me it made more sense because in every 12 months there will be 2 new generations of Mac. Apple releases a new system every 6 months and at $3500 per who can afford that unless your a commercial facility charging $100 or more an hour? With a windows PC, I can upgrade every 12 to 18 months, getting new OS and Production software (and it's "getting better all the time") to boot. In addition sample rates and formats will continue to evolve and this way it is less costly to continually upgrade to the latest converters and sample rates. Digidesign just announced a new LE 32 track 96 k system for $2500 and it looks killer! Even though I just went with a 24 bit Cubase system, now I can hardley wait to upgrade to that. See what I mean........Fats
  6. Henchman

    Henchman Active Member

    Oct 22, 2001
    What a load of bollocks. PC's are as stable if not more so than MAC's these days.

    Anyway, it all depends on you're budget. A full-blown Pro-Tools sytem with enough DSP, I/O's and a control surface, is going to cost way more than going with some of the other things you mentioned. Something most sales guys are going to avoid telling you. They liek to get you hooked, and then you'll find yourself spending more and more money to be able to do what you really need to do.

    Also, Mackie has a special right now if you buy a D8B.

    The RADAR stuf is supposed to sound realy good.

    So the first thing is to figure out what you'r buget is, and takle it from there.
  7. ChrisStuckey

    ChrisStuckey Guest

    dan, you might also get good input on this subject on the Daw side of the board...

    "Luke, I am your fatha! Come to the Daw side!"
  8. ChrisStuckey

    ChrisStuckey Guest

    P.S. Check out the dual amd post about the machine Opus is building for Santana :eek:
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