New findings on Mozart Effect

Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by pmolsonmus, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. pmolsonmus

    pmolsonmus Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    I've seen something like this before, but not quite this good...

    New Findings on Mozart Effect

    A recent report now says that the Mozart effect
    is yet another charming urban legend. The bad
    news for hip urban professionals: playing Mozart
    for your designer baby will not improve his IQ or
    help him get into that exclusive pre-school. He
    will just have to get admitted to Harvard some
    other way.

    Of course, we're all better off listening to Mozart
    purely for the pleasure of it. However, one must
    wonder whether, if playing Mozart sonatas for
    little Tiffany or Jason really could boost his or
    her intelligence, what would happen if other
    composers were played during the kiddies'
    developmental time?

    Child speaks rapidly and extravagantly, but
    never really says anything important.

    Child speaks v-e-r-y slowly and repeats himself
    frequently and at length. Gains reputation for

    Child becomes a egocentric megalomaniac.
    May eventually marry his sister.

    Child continually screams -at great length and volume -
    that he's dying.

    Child never repeats a word until he's used all
    the other words in his vocabulary. Sometimes
    talks backwards. Eventually, people stop listening to him.
    Child blames them for their inability to understand him.

    The child develops a remarkable ability to
    carry on several separate conversations at once,
    in various dialects.

    The child tends to repeat himself over and over
    and over and over and over and over and over
    and over and over and over and over and over
    and over again.

    The child is prone to savage, guttural
    and profane outbursts that often lead to
    fighting and pandemonium in the preschool.

    The child is able to speak beautifully as long as
    his sentences contain a multiple of three words
    (3, 6, 9, 12, etc).
    However, his sentences containing 4 or 8 words
    are strangely uninspired.

    Child says nothing for 4 minutes, 33 seconds -

    A recent study has determined that
    the CAGE EFFECT is preferred by
    10 out of 10 classroom teachers.
  2. MadTiger3000

    MadTiger3000 Active Member

    Nov 16, 2004
    I won't go into gory details, but it is sort of like things being too highly correlated to scientifically test for them. (I worded that clumsily, I know!)

    In this case, the people who have Mozart at home, and have a mom who doesn't mind listening to a bunch of Mozart, are MORE THAN LIKELY people who are college-educated, smarter-than-average individuals themselves. There are simply too many other things working here.
  3. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    What kind of effect would be the result of Listz and Glass?

    The small child would produce a seething propensity to wander, sometimes, leaving only the things they knew and cared for mostly in the climate of the day. I said will little ones generate fervent preference towards the unknown, often, within egress for the items recalled and revered for in the heat of time. Let me rephrase....
  4. RemyRAD

    RemyRAD Member

    Sep 26, 2005
    Unfortunately I know firsthand about the Mozart effect.

    My father was a concertmaster/violinist for numerous major symphony orchestras.

    Mom was a former Metropolitan Opera star. Her hero? Mozart! Always Mozart morning, noon & night. In utero. And what happens to me? I end up recording Mozart.

    Now, I think I'll drink myself to death?
    Ms. Remy Ann David
  5. Greener

    Greener Guest

    Technically you recorded classical musicians, now don't get me wrong. A lot of classical musicians are extremely talented and beyond capable... But NONE of them were Mozart. The man was a God.
    Yeah, don't get me started.

    Don't drink yourself to death either, cirrhosis of the liver blows chunks, and if you die, who will whip all these little fuckers into line?

    Also, it doesn't make a lick of difference what you listen too in terms of mind development. I have experimented in cognitive abilities when subjected to broad influences as apposed to using my brain.

    Sitting around listening to music is nothing compared to sitting around playing it.

    Use the imagination to create real things, not just to appreciate things.
    Letting music influence you and take you on a new tangent with what you create is beneficial but just hearing it then not _using_ it does nothing to develop the mind.
  6. StephenMC

    StephenMC Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    Form my own experience, though, listening to instrumental classical and jazz makes working a lot easier than listening to popular music. An attention-whore vocal distracts me.
  7. BobRogers

    BobRogers Well-Known Member

    Apr 4, 2006
    Blacksburg, VA
    Let's not get into Remy's age. I think she's a year older than I am.
  8. pmolsonmus

    pmolsonmus Well-Known Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    The original Mozart effect was a test of college students who listended to Mozart before taking an exam who scored somewhat better than their counterparts(counterpoints???) on spatial tests - not IQ. Those results have been duplicated by a number of studies. It was determined that the brain really likes the short clear phrases found in Classical Period Music (Haydn, Mozart) and the further music varied from that time period, the less effective the results - too much emotion, too slow tempo, in a word- Mahler-like. But the thought that it makes people smarter is not a widely held belief.

    It has since morphed into the baby Mozart b.s. that has "market research" written all over it. There are however, real studies that have also been duplicated that show a direct link between music study( playing an instrument) and academic achievement. Advocacy Facts and Statistics MENC.pdf

    We can go back to talking about how old Remy and Bob really are now.. . I think they may have actually recorded Classical Period musicians!!! Check the vaults...
  9. jg49

    jg49 Well-Known Member

    Oct 16, 2008
    Frozen Tundra of CT
    WOW..way cool, Remy recorded Mozart Live!
  10. bap

    bap Member

    Nov 22, 2003
    I have played lots of Mozart for my cat, both recorded and live on piano, and have closely watched and hoped for any sign of improvement of any kind.

    It was all an utter failure, but I am glad to have played the Mozart, nonetheless.....
  11. Space

    Space Well-Known Member

    Jun 26, 2007
    The cats idea was to see how long you would play Mozart...
  12. MadTiger3000

    MadTiger3000 Active Member

    Nov 16, 2004
    It's his birthday today. Go to Pro Chat, and leave your tribute in the thread.
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